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Who can we least afford to lose next year, Mickey or Martin
Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:26 pm
Hope it's not both.
This post was edited on 2/24/15 at 12:27 pm
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:27 pm to Bootycall
Mikey for sure. Kid is bad arse.
Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:28 pm to Bootycall
Mickey because if Elbert doesn't develop we will have no true center
Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:32 pm to Bootycall
We need Mickey back, though Martin is a better prospect.
Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:35 pm to Bootycall
Martin has a higher ceiling but him and Simmons are kinda similar players. Mickey would be the bigger addition back but is the more likely to declare IMO.
Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:37 pm to Bootycall
I will say that Martin can make his own shot better.
If we had to have only one next year, I think I'd rather Martin to be honest. Maybe it's just because Mickey is in a slump. IDK.
If we had to have only one next year, I think I'd rather Martin to be honest. Maybe it's just because Mickey is in a slump. IDK.
This post was edited on 2/24/15 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:50 pm to Bootycall
I think it's Martin as he would fit better with the 2 coming in. Ben should play SF and the offense should run through him. We could go big with one of the 2 7 footers, Martin, Simmons, AB, and TQ. That's assuming AB is effective at PG.
I could see a bunch of (lineup) options if either M&M comes back.
I could see a bunch of (lineup) options if either M&M comes back.
Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:57 pm to Bootycall
Mickey. Easily.
He's not the best on ball defender, but his shot blocking makes up for a LOT of poor defensive play. Even just his presence inside alters how teams attack LSU. There are plenty of times where his blocks are the first "pass" in LSU's transition game.
There are times where Martin disappears in games yet other guys are able to pick up the slack offensively. There's no one on LSU's team that can make up for Mickey's ability to protect the rim. Once Mickey leaves LSU fans will realize that "you don't know what you've got until it's gone"
He's not the best on ball defender, but his shot blocking makes up for a LOT of poor defensive play. Even just his presence inside alters how teams attack LSU. There are plenty of times where his blocks are the first "pass" in LSU's transition game.
There are times where Martin disappears in games yet other guys are able to pick up the slack offensively. There's no one on LSU's team that can make up for Mickey's ability to protect the rim. Once Mickey leaves LSU fans will realize that "you don't know what you've got until it's gone"
This post was edited on 2/24/15 at 12:59 pm
Posted on 2/24/15 at 12:59 pm to Bootycall
I think the Kentucky game was Martin's coming out party and he finally figured out how he has to play. Martin will be a force next year if he decides to stay. I just don't see Mickey with as high of a ceiling for improvement as Martin had. Now having both back would be unbelievable.
Posted on 2/24/15 at 1:07 pm to Bootycall
Think about how many more games we could've lost without Mickey playing defense. Blocks are huge and lead to fast breaks often
Martin has been in foul trouble and missed big time minutes in some games. In those times, Mickey shouldered the load and played well. And his jumper is smooth. I honestly think his offensive game is on the same level as Martin.
Either one staying would be huge. Love both of these guys. If they both leave, look for similar results next year, regardless of what recruits we bring in. It's just like replacing really good players with two new ones if M&M leave. I don't see us being much better if we lose both of these young men
Martin has been in foul trouble and missed big time minutes in some games. In those times, Mickey shouldered the load and played well. And his jumper is smooth. I honestly think his offensive game is on the same level as Martin.
Either one staying would be huge. Love both of these guys. If they both leave, look for similar results next year, regardless of what recruits we bring in. It's just like replacing really good players with two new ones if M&M leave. I don't see us being much better if we lose both of these young men
Posted on 2/24/15 at 1:36 pm to Bootycall
Looking at from the perspective of Mickey and Martin, Martin gains the most by staying. Being on the floor with Simmons will bring out things in Martin that he is fully capable of, but we have not seen yet. Would love to see Martin and Simmons working it. Mickey is topped out. He gone.
Posted on 2/24/15 at 1:57 pm to Bootycall
Mickey's got a pretty unique skillset that we would miss; it's a lot easier to predict someone coming in and being athletic etc (Simmons), than to say someone will come in and immediately block a lot of shots.
I also don't quite get the assumption that Mickey leaving is a foregone conclusion. Sure, he's probably peaked here, but his game doesn't translate to the next level. He will get destroyed by most NBA power forwards. Why not hang around in college a little longer, and enjoy being dominant on a good team?
I also don't quite get the assumption that Mickey leaving is a foregone conclusion. Sure, he's probably peaked here, but his game doesn't translate to the next level. He will get destroyed by most NBA power forwards. Why not hang around in college a little longer, and enjoy being dominant on a good team?
Posted on 2/24/15 at 2:36 pm to Bootycall
I keep saying both should come back. With the freshman we are adding, we would have a legit shot at the final four and possibly jumping Martin into a lottery pick.....Mickey into the first round possibly.
Posted on 2/24/15 at 3:00 pm to Bootycall
We need Mickey on Defense and Martin on Offense. Can't afford to lose either if we hope to improve.
Posted on 2/24/15 at 3:44 pm to Bootycall
Mickey should be a 4 year player and go for the blocks record. He has no future in the NBA.
Martin should be a 3 year player if he averages 18 and 10 next year. Otherwise he should also be a 4 year player. He does have a future in the NBA, but he needs to stay and play games against his current competition level, else he has no shot either. Dominate college games, then go.
Martin should be a 3 year player if he averages 18 and 10 next year. Otherwise he should also be a 4 year player. He does have a future in the NBA, but he needs to stay and play games against his current competition level, else he has no shot either. Dominate college games, then go.
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