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re: 87th Academy Awards

Posted on 2/23/15 at 11:08 am to
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 2/23/15 at 11:08 am to
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Any "Hollywood hates the miliatry" narrative has to square this circle.


It depends on what you mean by "hates the military". Awarding a movie that highlights veteran struggles is exactly the kind of thing you would expect Hollywood to do even if you thought Hollywood was anti-military. More precisely they are anti-war, but they are seen as being anti-military because of that.

There were a lot of great modern war stories that could have been told in the last 15 years. Instead we got Stop-Loss, In the Valley of Elah, Lions for Lambs, etc.

Hollywood doesn't hate veterans, they just think they are rubes.

If I had to speak for veterans, I would guess that they would like to see war movies that present a balanced view of things. Yes, war sucks, yes we have been in murky waters since Vietnam, but the veterans themselves are not geopolitical strategists. They have fought bravely and and on the whole been a credit to their country. For the most part, what Hollywood has produced has not even attempted to tell their sorry well.

There's no "The Best Years of Our Lives" coming out of Hollywood today.
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 2/23/15 at 11:27 am to
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There were a lot of great modern war stories that could have been told in the last 15 years. Instead we got Stop-Loss, In the Valley of Elah, Lions for Lambs, etc


We also got Hurt Locker, which won the Academy Award. And Zero Dark Thirty, which won one Oscar and was nominated for four others including Best Picture. The films you listed were not (though Elah had an Actor nod for Tommy Lee Jones). Hurt Locker is fairly agnostic on the war, while Zero Dark thirty was pro-war.

There also was Lone Survivor and Seal Team Six, which were also on the pro side, not to mention American Sniper itself, which was nominated for a slew of Oscars, and won one. Again, this uniform parade of anti-war films, failing to tell any other stories, is simply not true. And stop-Loss should've been a good movie, but man... it really wasn't. But I don't see how the characters in that movie, or any other modern war film, are portrayed as "rubes". They are almost uniformly portrayed as heroic, even in films that criticize the war. A film that portrayed American soldiers as baby killers or whatever coming from a major studio is practically unimaginable.
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