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re: For those interested, a TL, DR on ISIS
Posted on 2/17/15 at 10:54 am to touchdownjeebus
Posted on 2/17/15 at 10:54 am to touchdownjeebus
It's the most accurate I've seen, but some things are patently wrong... take for example:
The rise of Isis has 0, zilch, nada to do with bad governance or shitty conditions or outward denigration of anywhere in the middle east.
It's rise is one thing and one thing only... in a battle of good vs evil, it is the gathering and organizing of the side of evil.
Nothing more, nothing less.
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Look instead, these scholars urged, to the conditions in which these ideologies arose—the bad governance, the shifting social mores, the humiliation of living in lands valued only for their oil.
Without acknowledgment of these factors, no explanation of the rise of the Islamic State could be complete.
The rise of Isis has 0, zilch, nada to do with bad governance or shitty conditions or outward denigration of anywhere in the middle east.
It's rise is one thing and one thing only... in a battle of good vs evil, it is the gathering and organizing of the side of evil.
Nothing more, nothing less.
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Posted on 2/17/15 at 10:56 am to Meauxjeaux
actually, the governance that has ruled the land is exactly why it has risen to prominence. The Koran calls for an Islamic government, governed in strict accordance to Islamic law. ISIS is doing precisely that. They are establishing a government, or a caliphate, based specifically on the archaic teachings of the Koran.
EDIT: Whether their brand of Islam is good or evil is open to interpretation. You and I probably both agree. These fools are batshit crazy, and are certainly evil, but to someone deeply embedded and involved with ISIS, it is completely logical and the purest form of their faith. They are no different than that of a crazy offshoot of Christianity, well except they lop people's heads off...
EDIT: Whether their brand of Islam is good or evil is open to interpretation. You and I probably both agree. These fools are batshit crazy, and are certainly evil, but to someone deeply embedded and involved with ISIS, it is completely logical and the purest form of their faith. They are no different than that of a crazy offshoot of Christianity, well except they lop people's heads off...
This post was edited on 2/17/15 at 10:59 am
Posted on 2/17/15 at 10:57 am to Meauxjeaux
Wish I could stay all day and debate this. I'll be mostly in read-only mode since I'll be on mobile the rest of the day.
Posted on 2/17/15 at 12:53 pm to Meauxjeaux
quote:
The rise of Isis has 0, zilch, nada to do with bad governance or shitty conditions or outward denigration of anywhere in the middle east.
It's rise is one thing and one thing only... in a battle of good vs evil, it is the gathering and organizing of the side of evil.
Nothing more, nothing less.
False, wrong wrong wrong.
ISIS has EVERYTHING to do with bad government.
Whether it was the Assad regime completely disregarding the majority Sunni population of his country, the United States barring former Baathists (Sunnis) from the new Iraqi government, Al Maliki purging Sunni's from his cabinet and the military, ect. ISIS could not recruit or operate absent of bad government.
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