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re: (Not Common Core)-- Why are they teaching math this way?
Posted on 2/9/15 at 12:58 pm to igoringa
Posted on 2/9/15 at 12:58 pm to igoringa
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You are completely wrong. They are taught to memorize it and then use it as a technique. Notice it was given as a technique in the first question. Not number line, or grouping, or sticks or tallies.....
So you knwo for 100% fact that 5+5=10 wasn't taught before hand? Spiffy.
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That explains your commentary.
I'd love to know how you connect those dots. I was taught the old way, and am an engineer. So you;d think if I was uninformed I'd lean against the new way of teaching stuff.
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So you are fine memorizing doubles
I don't think it's memoizing. I'm assuming the kid learns why 5+5=10 the same way he will learn why 5+3=8. You call it memorizing, I call it application.
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No, and amazingly we all know it is 8 without having to pull out a number line.
Congrats, the child will get there too.
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And you are missing a few questions - remind me again how these help with your question of 354x286?
I never said they would. Why would they? The child is learning the basis of why the simple things are what they are so they can later do more complex things.
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which of these techniques we discussed are building the skillset to answer 354*286?
None. Thank goodness I never claimed they would.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 1:06 pm to LNCHBOX
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So you knwo for 100% fact that 5+5=10 wasn't taught before hand? Spiffy.
No, I was taught it once and then memorized it. I know E=MC2 too... but I don't rewrite the proof every time.
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I was taught the old way, and am an engineer. So you;d think if I was uninformed I'd lean against the new way of teaching stuff.
My point was you had no idea they still memorize like crazy, but just their starting facts (doubles, 5's, 10's, doubles minus 1 etc...). You attacked memorization as not being effective while ignoring the very first questions asked illustrated the fact memorization is still required.
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I don't think it's memoizing. I'm assuming the kid learns why 5+5=10 the same way he will learn why 5+3=8. You call it memorizing, I call it application.
Wait, so when the question said 'doubles fact', you don't think that meant 'doubles fact', you think it means ..... You were better off admitting you don't know this stuff. the kids are taught to memorize doubles, 5's, 10's etc... then instead of memorizing everything else, they can use this subset of facts to get to the answer. It is less to memorize, but is still memorization. You might want to understand what you are arguing for before you do such.
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Congrats, the child will get there too.
Yes they will, just several months behind from where they would have been.
Finally, when you said:
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How will that serve as a good base when your child needs to solve 354x286?
you weren't actually inferring these current day techniques would be helpful? OK, not sure what you are trying to argue.
Of course since you have no idea what is being taught and how I can understand the confusion.
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