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nintendo taking money from their fans. where do you stand?
Posted on 2/6/15 at 12:59 pm
Posted on 2/6/15 at 12:59 pm
the argument is that video games are copyrighted content, so if you make money by posting a video of you playing the game, the dev/publisher deserves a slice. YouTube takes their 30% cut from ad revenue, and the rest is for the user.
Nintendo for a while has taken all of that ad revenue that would normally go to the person making the video for themselves. note that blizzard, valve, bungie, etc and most other devs alllow players to profit from their games like this. not Nintendo. Recently, Nintendo announced a new program to allow users to get paid for their Nintendo videos.... Although nintrndo still gets a big cut, and you have to remove non Nintendo videos from your channel if you want to get approved, which is ridiculous. Or, you can submit each game individually, which may or may not be allowed to be monetized by Nintendo.
like many others, I feel this is bullshite. if I buy a product, I can do what I want with it. I don't owe Microsoft any money if I make a YouTube video series on excel and profit from the ad revenue. I don't owe Apple any money if I make ad money by posting a full walk through video of their newest device.
people subscribe and watch those YouTube channels because of the personalities and the people. They add voice overs, edit, intros, outros, and spend all this work on their video, only for a company like nintendo to come in and take all their profits...after Nintendo already profited from the sale of the game.
the worst part? a guy on twitch can play through an entire Nintendo game and make money from ads, subs, and donations. He's profiting off the game, so where is mighty Nintendo in this scenario? why isn't Nintendo taking profits from twitch users?
The system is broken. bungie, valve, blizzard, ubisoft, and most other devs and publishers don't raid their fans' piggy bank for playing their games. nintendo, on the other hand, doesn't hesitate to fleece their fans on YouTube for such a "criminal" act, yet inconsistently allows players to profit fully on other channels.
Nintendo and copyright law in general are both complete jokes
Nintendo for a while has taken all of that ad revenue that would normally go to the person making the video for themselves. note that blizzard, valve, bungie, etc and most other devs alllow players to profit from their games like this. not Nintendo. Recently, Nintendo announced a new program to allow users to get paid for their Nintendo videos.... Although nintrndo still gets a big cut, and you have to remove non Nintendo videos from your channel if you want to get approved, which is ridiculous. Or, you can submit each game individually, which may or may not be allowed to be monetized by Nintendo.
like many others, I feel this is bullshite. if I buy a product, I can do what I want with it. I don't owe Microsoft any money if I make a YouTube video series on excel and profit from the ad revenue. I don't owe Apple any money if I make ad money by posting a full walk through video of their newest device.
people subscribe and watch those YouTube channels because of the personalities and the people. They add voice overs, edit, intros, outros, and spend all this work on their video, only for a company like nintendo to come in and take all their profits...after Nintendo already profited from the sale of the game.
the worst part? a guy on twitch can play through an entire Nintendo game and make money from ads, subs, and donations. He's profiting off the game, so where is mighty Nintendo in this scenario? why isn't Nintendo taking profits from twitch users?
The system is broken. bungie, valve, blizzard, ubisoft, and most other devs and publishers don't raid their fans' piggy bank for playing their games. nintendo, on the other hand, doesn't hesitate to fleece their fans on YouTube for such a "criminal" act, yet inconsistently allows players to profit fully on other channels.
Nintendo and copyright law in general are both complete jokes
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Posted on 2/6/15 at 1:03 pm to demosa
thats capitalism
Posted on 2/6/15 at 1:17 pm to demosa
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if I buy a product, I can do what I want with it.
This sounds nice, but its not nearly that simple.
Posted on 2/6/15 at 1:19 pm to demosa
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like many others, I feel this is bullshite. if I buy a product, I can do what I want with it.
You aren't buying the rights to profit off of their intellectual property. You are merely "renting" the rights to use it for your own private use.
It's not hard to understand at all.
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copyright law in general are both complete jokes
I would like you to expand on this. Not saying I disagree but I want to hear your argument.
This post was edited on 2/6/15 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 2/6/15 at 1:35 pm to demosa
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demosa
You're wrong.
Posted on 2/6/15 at 1:57 pm to demosa
The general consensus is that Nintendo is legally right, but they're making a mistake. They're actively going against free advertising and something that other publishers embrace as part of the community.
Nintendo will get around to the rest of the industry.
Nintendo will get around to the rest of the industry.
Posted on 2/6/15 at 2:34 pm to demosa
quote:You're pretty dim. They are completely within their rights to do so. Other companies may not agree with the act, because having your game played on youtube/twitch, etc. is free marketing and advertisement. But Nintendo has come to the conclusion that it's not needed for them and would rather make the royalties they are legally entitled to instead. Is it annoying if you make youtube videos? Sure. Want to fix it? Play other games.
demosa
Posted on 2/6/15 at 3:35 pm to demosa
I don't really mind all this to tell you the truth. Nintendo has always made top notch games without being run by a company primarily founded on electronics and things other than video games (which Sony and Microsoft fit the bill on).
Occasionally they'll pull a money scam here and there but I mean can you really blame them? They survive off of first party titles and haven't had to rely outside the company since the Nintendo 64, which there was really no competition in gaming outside Nintendo at the time other than Sega etc. I believe things like this are really expanding the company and bringing them further into the modern age of thinking. If you haven't noticed lately, they've struggled time and time again since the release of the Wii U due to poor preparation and game management for the new console. Now that they have legit solid content to release their sales are going through the roof (relative to their recent endeavors). Tell me when's the last time anyone was so excited for Nintendo products especially out of the Zelda series? I know I know...I am a Nintendo fan boy but I really couldn't care less what they do with their ads and their other marketing shite because you can't deny they release quality games any time they put a lot of resources into it. Besides, there are thousands and thousands of Xbox and Sony games you can put on YouTube and stream right?
Stop bitching.
Occasionally they'll pull a money scam here and there but I mean can you really blame them? They survive off of first party titles and haven't had to rely outside the company since the Nintendo 64, which there was really no competition in gaming outside Nintendo at the time other than Sega etc. I believe things like this are really expanding the company and bringing them further into the modern age of thinking. If you haven't noticed lately, they've struggled time and time again since the release of the Wii U due to poor preparation and game management for the new console. Now that they have legit solid content to release their sales are going through the roof (relative to their recent endeavors). Tell me when's the last time anyone was so excited for Nintendo products especially out of the Zelda series? I know I know...I am a Nintendo fan boy but I really couldn't care less what they do with their ads and their other marketing shite because you can't deny they release quality games any time they put a lot of resources into it. Besides, there are thousands and thousands of Xbox and Sony games you can put on YouTube and stream right?
Stop bitching.
Posted on 2/6/15 at 4:23 pm to demosa
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The system is broken. bungie, valve, blizzard, ubisoft, and most other devs and publishers don't raid their fans' piggy bank for playing their games. nintendo, on the other hand, doesn't hesitate to fleece their fans on YouTube for such a "criminal" act, yet inconsistently allows players to profit fully on other channels.
So, don't buy or support their shite?
Posted on 2/6/15 at 5:46 pm to demosa
It's their product. They're welcome to do whatever they want to with it. They have every right to take people's content off youtube if they don't like what's attached to their product. I don't necessarily agree with it but the people that are pissed at Nintendo need to get over themselves.
Posted on 2/6/15 at 6:14 pm to demosa
How is this any different than not being able to broadcast a dvd I bought on youtube?
Posted on 2/6/15 at 7:52 pm to demosa
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like many others, I feel this is bullshite. if I buy a product, I can do what I want with it. I don't owe Microsoft any money if I make a YouTube video series on excel and profit from the ad revenue. I don't owe Apple any money if I make ad money by posting a full walk through video of their newest device.
Like many others, you are wrong. Doing what you want with the product is also copying and distributing it. Also not legal.
1. Nintendo is in full legal right to do this, so it isn't really a big deal.
2. It's kind of mean and greedy for Nintendo to do this, I think everyone agrees with that...
3. At the same time, their stance is correct. They make the best first party games, games you can't have anywhere else. That's the difference between Nintendo and say Bungie. Not that Bungie doesn't make great games, but that they aren't as unique, and they don't rely so much on the identity of Bungie like Mario does on the identity of Nintendo. Anyone mad at this, just like anyone mad at Nintendo for not making games for other systems (or why they never will), just doesn't get Nintendo and why they are successful.
4. You know how much this will affect Nintendo revenue? 0%
Book it.
Not a solid point, just a guess:
People addicted to things like Let's Play, and that entire of system of revenue probably buy less games on average. I'd have no reason to buy Last of Us if I watch some dude go through the game front to back. Maybe they do, I'd love to see the statistics, but I think on average it would have to be less.
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