re: ACC to count BYU as P5

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Well, Clemson did beat a Big 12 team by almost 40 with the worst backup QB in the nation. He struggled all year vs the crappy ACC defenses, but had a career night against that tough OU / Big 12 defense.

Big 12 has 2 good teams - Baylor, TCU - and that's it. ACCs Clemson and FSU have been similar the last two years. Next year, FSU, Clemson, and GT will all be legit top 15 teams. Really not that much difference between the two conferences, no matter how much you hate the ACC because the other Big East teams got in and WV didn't.

Urban Meyer is 38-3 at OSU. 2 of those three losses are to ACC schools.

I'm not saying ACC is great, but they aren't the garbage you keep spewing about on here. If they were:

VT won't have beaten OSU
BC wouldn't have beaten USC
Clemson wouldn't have beaten Auburn, UGa, OSU, LSU, USC last couple of years
FSU wouldn't have won NC and played in playoff
ACC wouldn't have owned the SEC East this year
GT wouldn't have pounded MSU.

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