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re: More information about declining bobwhite quail numbers
Posted on 1/10/15 at 9:40 pm to offshoretrash
Posted on 1/10/15 at 9:40 pm to offshoretrash
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I just do not believe this. Before the mid 80s all predators were trapped very hard. Lots of guys made a living doing it. I was in my mid 20s before I saw a live bobcat. Now we are over ran with predators, it's nothing to see a family of coons come to your feeder or see several bobcat, fox and coyotes while hunting. Then throw in the feral cats, it's easy to see that all these predators have got to take a heavy toll on birds
like quail.
One other thing that may affect them too is none of the timber companies burn anymore they spray and kill every stitch of vegetation but a pine tree in these cut overs
While I completly agree with you on predator expansion, I dont agree with you on the burning thing
You can look at most any WMA in western LA and see thousand upon thousand acre of pine land not sprayed like the industrial forest with large parcel that is burned:
1. Fort Polk
2. Clear Creek
3. Peason Ridge
4. Large parts of Kisatchie
And all of them recieve relative zero hunting pressure and have almost no quail for practical purpose.you can drive through any of them and see tons of burned acreage. If there was still seed population why wouldnt thehy be crawling like roaches around these places?
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Posted on 1/10/15 at 9:57 pm to Fat Neck
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You can look at most any WMA in western LA and see thousand upon thousand acre of pine land not sprayed like the industrial forest with large parcel that is burned:
Yeah your right.
Posted on 1/11/15 at 8:16 am to Fat Neck
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You can look at most any WMA in western LA and see thousand upon thousand acre of pine land not sprayed like the industrial forest with large parcel that is burned:
Do those WMA's have clear cuts? The quail really thrive in the cut overs. There are plants(lezpedeza)that grow that provide food that do not occur in even young stands of timber. Today, when timber companies clear cut and replant, they spray herbicide that brown out everything except the pines.
Overall, quail require a very particular set of conditions that are more likely to occur with a lot of human intervention than naturally. That intervention no longer occurs due to changing agricultural practices. The few quail I see are usually in fields that also have cows and horses. Those animals help create the habitat and provide a little protection from predators.
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