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re: If social security is doing so great why do we now need myRA?

Posted on 12/28/14 at 12:44 am to
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 12:44 am to
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Current beneficiaries have paid their way already.


The money to pay their benefits comes mostly from current workers paying into the system.


You have to have fricking known this I refuse to believe you could be that ignorant.

Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48730 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 1:02 am to
What happened to all the money recipients paid in?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57393 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 1:52 am to
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The money to pay their benefits comes mostly from current workers paying into the system.
Nope. As a retirement (OASI) program SS has long run a surplus. The trust fund ratio held "in trust" has roughly grown from 25% to 400% between 1985 and 2008. In fact the federal government "owes" social security trust fund roughly $2.7 trillion from money it's "borrowed" from those funds. Now... currenlty , the "trust fund" is in negative cash flow ($77B) until 2018 (projected) due to the lagging economy. Through 2019, however... the interest earned from the "government" covers the shortfall.

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You're claim will not be correct until 2033 when the "trust fund" will start eating into principle balances to cover current expenses. That is the beginning of the end of SS.

Now if you intended to say that many receive more than they pay in, because a few pay in far more they will ever get... you may have a point. That situation projects to get far worse over the short and long terms.

Bottom line, if you are capable of making even a slightly above salary, you're going to pay more than you get now and into the future.

And most of all, if you can invest with even modest success the opportunity cost of SS is... enormous.

This post was edited on 12/28/14 at 2:02 am
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124190 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 5:31 am to
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The money to pay their benefits comes mostly from current workers paying into the system.
Gosh. I'm confused then. That would make it like a Ponzi Scheme.
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You have to have fricking known this
I'm just quoting what my government "receipt" says about my SS. It tells me exactly how much I've contributed toward my Social Security.

You mean they are stealing my social security retirement too? So it's all a charade? I feel so deceived.
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