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Looking for a surface drive after the season
Posted on 12/27/14 at 11:50 am
Posted on 12/27/14 at 11:50 am
Do any of you know of a good custom boat builder? Also, based of you experiences, I want one that is stable for fishing too. What are must haves on them? Don't know if it would be cheaper to buy an Xpress that is multi purpose with a 70 Yamaha or a get a surface drive that will be able to hit the shallow ponds. Convince me on what I need, not want.
Posted on 12/27/14 at 11:52 am to LSUTiger205
You need to state what you do (type of hunting and fishing), and where you do it for someone to provide proper guidance...
Posted on 12/27/14 at 12:00 pm to LSUTiger205
If you looking for a custom surface drive rig check out Fins and Feathers boats
Posted on 12/27/14 at 3:14 pm to LSUTiger205
IMO you are better off buying an outboard and if you really need it buying a long tail to put on it. The only real advantage I've seen a surface drive has over a long tail is speed in open water but with a full hunt load most stock motors are looking at 25-30 TOPS. If you hunt in timber a long tail is far superior because it gives you leverage to get over logs at low speeds.
I usually hunt out of a 16' semi-v bateau with a 50, if we run up on a sandbar when it's dark or foggy it's usually got enough water to be able to walk it back out to the channel.
Most people are unhappy with the speed of a surface drive and it costs you close to a grand for every MPH increase. It's just a lawnmower engine and they do break, so you can either be slow and reliable or spend a pile of money to get it around outboard speed but could very well get stranded when (not if) you break something.
As far as boats go I don't know who a custom builder is best, but based on my research you get the most bang for your buck versus buying an xpress, excell, or war eagle, plus you can go with 3/16" versus 10 gauge and still come out cheaper.
I usually hunt out of a 16' semi-v bateau with a 50, if we run up on a sandbar when it's dark or foggy it's usually got enough water to be able to walk it back out to the channel.
Most people are unhappy with the speed of a surface drive and it costs you close to a grand for every MPH increase. It's just a lawnmower engine and they do break, so you can either be slow and reliable or spend a pile of money to get it around outboard speed but could very well get stranded when (not if) you break something.
As far as boats go I don't know who a custom builder is best, but based on my research you get the most bang for your buck versus buying an xpress, excell, or war eagle, plus you can go with 3/16" versus 10 gauge and still come out cheaper.
Posted on 12/27/14 at 4:50 pm to LSUTiger205
Im probably going to sell my rig. Its a gheenoe flats boat with an 18hp copperhead on it.
Its good to get places and ok for fishing flats. Not set up like a boat blind though
Its good to get places and ok for fishing flats. Not set up like a boat blind though
Posted on 12/27/14 at 5:49 pm to LSUTiger205
If you're talking an absolutely stripped down version of surface drive rig (35hp) vs a stripped down xpress w/70 hp outboard then I think it'd be cheaper by as much as $4k to get the surface drive rig.
I get to ponds that I only see kayakers able to get to (they hate it but I can get way farther than them and give them peace and quiet quickly) in an 18x54 gatortrax CC with 35hp Mudbuddy....places I wouldn't try to get to with or without a jack plate outboard.....it's a heavy boat with trolling motor, batteries, poling platform, etc.
Top end is close to 30 and with a full hunt load I will get 25 or so
It's tough to get a "do everything" boat.....now I want a smaller stripped out tiller handle surface drive for running yo-yos by myself and such and just be more nimble in general
Good luck, I love boat shopping and setting up new rigs......about a year after I get them set up I'm ready to sell them and get a new project
I get to ponds that I only see kayakers able to get to (they hate it but I can get way farther than them and give them peace and quiet quickly) in an 18x54 gatortrax CC with 35hp Mudbuddy....places I wouldn't try to get to with or without a jack plate outboard.....it's a heavy boat with trolling motor, batteries, poling platform, etc.
Top end is close to 30 and with a full hunt load I will get 25 or so
It's tough to get a "do everything" boat.....now I want a smaller stripped out tiller handle surface drive for running yo-yos by myself and such and just be more nimble in general
Good luck, I love boat shopping and setting up new rigs......about a year after I get them set up I'm ready to sell them and get a new project
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