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re: Will Notre Dame ever have a dominant football program again?

Posted on 12/27/14 at 8:42 am to
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 12/27/14 at 8:42 am to
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Not unti the low level academic athletes in.


This. As long as Notre Dame continues to hold academics in higher esteem than athletics they will not consistently be a powerhouse. Need to drop standards and/or start allowing redshirts. Most schools would be credited for doing such a good thing, but not Notre Dame.
Posted by Sevendust912
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 12/27/14 at 8:47 am to
If the Baylor Bears can be the best program in Texas, I'd say anything is possible.
Posted by crazyLSUfan
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Posted on 12/27/14 at 10:03 am to
ND doesn't allow redshirts?
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 12/27/14 at 10:22 am to
They still recruit very well, but the academic qualifications do limit then to some athletes but it's not that big of a deal, really
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/27/14 at 10:50 am to
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This. As long as Notre Dame continues to hold academics in higher esteem than athletics they will not consistently be a powerhouse. Need to drop standards and/or start allowing redshirts.


Meh, it's really not that bad from an admissions standpoint. The main thing is it's really, really hard for JUCOs to transfer in. Also, there might be some kids that really have struggled badly academically that won't get in, but it's pretty rare. You don't exactly need to be a rocket scientist to get into ND as a football player.

Also, ND does "redshirt", but doesn't call it a redshirt and ND lists players by academic year. So if you go to the Website, it might say "SR" by a player's name, but he's a junior from an eligibility standpoint. The fifth-years will say "GS". I don't know if it's an official or just kind of expected, but most/all of the fifth-years graduated in four years, and then are offered to come back for a fifth year if accepted into a graduate school program, rather than completing an undergraduate degree (or "being in the process" of completing an undergrad degree) in five years.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 12/27/14 at 11:21 am to
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This. As long as Notre Dame continues to hold academics in higher esteem than athletics they will not consistently be a powerhouse. Need to drop standards and/or start allowing redshirts. Most schools would be credited for doing such a good thing, but not Notre Dame.


This is a bunk theory for two reasons.

1) Notre Dame had plenty of success recruiting in the past with the same academic standards in place as today.

2) Schools like Stanford are having success today recruiting players with stricter academic standards than ND.
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