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Post office beats UPS and FedEx for packages
Posted on 12/23/14 at 7:05 pm
Posted on 12/23/14 at 7:05 pm
This is from consumers reports. In cost and reliability the the USPS beats the so-called better private industry.
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Posted on 12/23/14 at 7:07 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
Without opening the link and seeing this is a post by you, I'm calling total bullshite just on the title. 
Posted on 12/23/14 at 7:13 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
Interesting that solvency was not one of the factors considered. I wonder how the USPS would have performed if they had to break even much less not be a parasite on the taxpayers.
This post was edited on 12/23/14 at 7:17 pm
Posted on 12/23/14 at 7:15 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
Does UPS & FedEx have billions on UNFUNDED liabilities in health care and retirement benefits? 
Posted on 12/23/14 at 7:16 pm to Radiojones
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Interesting that solvency was not one of the factors considered. I wonder how the USPS would have perform if they had to break even much not be a parasite on the taxpayers.
UPS and FedEx get government subsidies in the form of the interstate high way system, US federal highways, state highways and county and city roads. They also enjoy government services in air-traffic control. So the idea that UPS and FedEx are totally private and get no help from the taxpayers is false. They can also enjoy taxpayer funded courts to help settle disputes they have and tax-payer supported snow plows on roads. So once again they are also parasites.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 7:16 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
That's because they "transfer" what they cannot handle to FedEx & UPS.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 7:17 pm to Radiojones
this is definitely not my experience. In fact, the USPS flies their mail in here on commercial carriers, the same one UPS uses.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 7:17 pm to Reubaltaich
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Does UPS & FedEx have billions on UNFUNDED liabilities in health care and retirement benefits?
Well they do get billions of government subsidies and tax breaks in the form of roads and federally regulated airways and a lot of local and state governments have given them tax breaks.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 7:18 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
Like those companies have not paid for those services in the taxes they have paid. 
Posted on 12/23/14 at 7:19 pm to jonboy
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That's because they "transfer" what they cannot handle to FedEx & UPS.
The opposite is more common. UPS and FedEx transfer packages to the post office for home delivery.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 7:19 pm to Radiojones
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Like those companies have not paid for those services in the taxes they have paid.
It's more likely to come from your gas taxes for the roads and highways they use.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 7:20 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
So FedEx & UPS DON'T pay taxes that fund all this infrastructure that you talk about?
What about thier employees? They pay no taxes as well on roads...
What about thier employees? They pay no taxes as well on roads...
Posted on 12/23/14 at 7:20 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
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Well they do get billions of government subsidies and tax breaks in the form of roads and federally regulated airways
Too bad the USPS has to to pay for use of roads & airways. Such a competitive disadvantage *sarcasm*
Posted on 12/23/14 at 7:21 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
Think how great the post office would be if they didn't lose BILLIONS evrry quarter!
Alas! Details.
Alas! Details.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 7:22 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
Sorry you are wrong.
My neighbor cashed in two years worth of sick leave several years ago to "speed up" her retirement from the USPS. She was kind of lazy and dumb.
My neighbor cashed in two years worth of sick leave several years ago to "speed up" her retirement from the USPS. She was kind of lazy and dumb.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 7:22 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
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UPS and FedEx get government subsidies in the form of the interstate high way system, US federal highways, state highways and county and city roads. They also enjoy government services in air-traffic control. So the idea that UPS and FedEx are totally private and get no help from the taxpayers is false. They can also enjoy taxpayer funded courts to help settle disputes they have and tax-payer supported snow plows on roads. So once again they are also parasites.
I'm curious if you have the figures detailing the amount of corporate taxes paid by each organization to help fund all of these "subsidies."
Posted on 12/23/14 at 7:22 pm to Reubaltaich
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So FedEx & UPS DON'T pay taxes that fund all this infrastructure that you talk about?
What about thier employees? They pay no taxes as well on roads...
You and I pay a far larger share of the gas taxes to fund roads and you pay federal taxes on your plane tickets to support the infrastructure in airports and federal regulation of airways for safety.
Federal employees pay taxes on their income.
No private industry in this country is free of taxpayer paid government subsidies.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 7:24 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
Looks to me like the deck is stacked:
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FedEx delivers on Saturdays for an extra charge; it also has same-day delivery service 365 days per year, but we did not include that in our comparison because we considered it a novelty that’s overpriced for cost-conscious consumers.
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Reliability: UPS and FedEx wouldn't tell us about their track record, which hurt their score. The USPS says 87.5 percent of package deliveries were made on time in 2013. If FedEx and UPS did better, wouldn’t they want to crow about it?
Posted on 12/23/14 at 7:25 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
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. UPS and FedEx transfer packages to the post office for home delivery.
In some cases of extreme rural delivery where the zip code is not serviced by FedEx or UPS this may occur. But not nearly enough to make a difference is service metrics for anyone. However, a FedEX air flight loaded down with USPS freight arriving on time, every time, will make the numbers look great.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 7:26 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
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UPS and FedEx get government subsidies in the form of the interstate high way system, US federal highways, state highways and county and city roads. They also enjoy government services in air-traffic control
Wow. So the USPS doesn't get to use the highways and/or airways. Who knew?
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