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re: Gruden's comment on MNF about offensive talent at LSU
Posted on 12/25/14 at 9:07 am to nm1230
Posted on 12/25/14 at 9:07 am to nm1230
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Saban took over a team that had talent but had gone in the shitter. He had to rebuild it and establish a winning culture
Wait, so losing 3 games is a winning culture under Saban? Double standard much?
His 2000&2001 teams were just as, if not more loaded than miles 2005 team. Saban had all but given up on recruiting his last season here. So much so that Mikes wasnt even able to have a full class.
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Posted on 12/25/14 at 9:23 am to JaxTiger10
Yes, coming from what the team was in 98 and 99 it took time to establish a winning culture.
Just so we are clear - are you trying to say that the LSU program that Saban took over was at the same level as the program Miles took over? And if so are you strictly basing this on the record of the 2004 team?
Are you saying the expectation level should have been the same?
Saban took over less and had to build more. You aren't seriously trying to make this argument.
Just so we are clear - are you trying to say that the LSU program that Saban took over was at the same level as the program Miles took over? And if so are you strictly basing this on the record of the 2004 team?
Are you saying the expectation level should have been the same?
Saban took over less and had to build more. You aren't seriously trying to make this argument.
Posted on 12/25/14 at 9:58 am to JaxTiger10
First of all, Saban didn't coach 6 seasons at LSU. Get that part straight if you want to be taken seriously.
And yes, losing only 3 games in comparison to the end of Dinardo was establishing a winning culture. Did you watch 98 and 99? How old were you then?
Go back and compare '98 and '99 LSU to '03 and '04 LSU teams. The expectations were lower at the beginning of Saban's tenure. Miles and Saban stepped into different situations and if you don't believe that then you are either stupid or dishonest.
If Saban had stayed after 2004 and gone 5-3 and 4-4 in conference in 2005 and 2006 people would have bitched just as much as they bitch right now. In fact, people bitched throughout 2004.
And yes, losing only 3 games in comparison to the end of Dinardo was establishing a winning culture. Did you watch 98 and 99? How old were you then?
Go back and compare '98 and '99 LSU to '03 and '04 LSU teams. The expectations were lower at the beginning of Saban's tenure. Miles and Saban stepped into different situations and if you don't believe that then you are either stupid or dishonest.
If Saban had stayed after 2004 and gone 5-3 and 4-4 in conference in 2005 and 2006 people would have bitched just as much as they bitch right now. In fact, people bitched throughout 2004.
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