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re: Gruden's comment on MNF about offensive talent at LSU
Posted on 12/24/14 at 10:42 pm to JaxTiger10
Posted on 12/24/14 at 10:42 pm to JaxTiger10
[/quote]I asked you what criteria you were using to say those programs were better than LSU in 2004 and you listed a bunch of historical shite that has nothing to do with where those programs were in 2004. But since you listed them I'll play along.
By 2004 they were 8 seasons removed from a NC and Ron Zook was their head coach. The last time they had won an SEC title was four seasons earlier. Zook was fired in 2004 for having back to back 5 loss seasons. So were they still a better program in 2004 than LSU?
Won a NC in 1999. But then 2,4,5,3,3 loss seasons with no top 10 finishes. Still a better program than LSU in 2004?
NC in 1998. Then 3,4,2,5,3,3 loss seasons and no SEC titles. Better than LSU as a program in 2004?
Oklahoma was rolling during that time period and would have probably have been considered a top 5 program. But LSU has just beaten them in the NC game. So although historically they were considered a better program I don't think they were that far apart from LSU in 2004 in reality in terms of talent, facilities, etc.
From 1996 to 2001 they went 37-35. Their second-worst over any five-year span in history. Starting in 2001 with Carroll they went 6-6, 11-2,12-1,13-0. They were a better program historically but were re-emerging with Carrol at the same time LSU was with Saban. So they would be in the top 5 ballpark.
Yes you need to go on. You named 5 programs 3 of which were not better programs than LSU in 2004.
And again, you are listing historical stuff. What matters at a program in win/loss record the last say 5 seasons, talent base, current roster, facilities, conference, etc...
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Florida- had 6 sec titles and. National titles since 1991
By 2004 they were 8 seasons removed from a NC and Ron Zook was their head coach. The last time they had won an SEC title was four seasons earlier. Zook was fired in 2004 for having back to back 5 loss seasons. So were they still a better program in 2004 than LSU?
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Florida St - finished in the top 5 for 14 straight years
Won a NC in 1999. But then 2,4,5,3,3 loss seasons with no top 10 finishes. Still a better program than LSU in 2004?
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Tenn-had back to back sec titles, and played in another one and had a BCS title
NC in 1998. Then 3,4,2,5,3,3 loss seasons and no SEC titles. Better than LSU as a program in 2004?
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Oklahoma- 3 conference titles and bcs title
Oklahoma was rolling during that time period and would have probably have been considered a top 5 program. But LSU has just beaten them in the NC game. So although historically they were considered a better program I don't think they were that far apart from LSU in 2004 in reality in terms of talent, facilities, etc.
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USC- since 1993 6 conference titles and 2 national titles
From 1996 to 2001 they went 37-35. Their second-worst over any five-year span in history. Starting in 2001 with Carroll they went 6-6, 11-2,12-1,13-0. They were a better program historically but were re-emerging with Carrol at the same time LSU was with Saban. So they would be in the top 5 ballpark.
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Do i need to go on?
Yes you need to go on. You named 5 programs 3 of which were not better programs than LSU in 2004.
And again, you are listing historical stuff. What matters at a program in win/loss record the last say 5 seasons, talent base, current roster, facilities, conference, etc...
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Posted on 12/24/14 at 10:59 pm to nm1230
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This post was edited on 12/24/14 at 11:01 pm
Posted on 12/24/14 at 10:59 pm to nm1230
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So were they still a better program in 2004 than LSU?
Yes. From 1990-2004 UF had national title and 6 sec titles. In that time span lsu 2 sec titles and 1 national title.
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Won a NC in 1999. But then 2,4,5,3,3 loss seasons with no top 10 finishes. Still a better program than LSU in 2004?
So they had losses just like every ine of Saban's seasons at lsu except 1. I cant believe youre even asking if FSU was a better program than lsu in 2005. The had just had 14 straight years of finishing top 5.
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NC in 1998. Then 3,4,2,5,3,3 loss seasons and no SEC titles. Better than LSU as a program in 2004?
Yes. Lsu had not risen to top 5 status by 2005.
Oklahoma was without question a better program.
Ohio State was better without question.
USC was without question a better program.
You bash Miles for losing 3 games but when Saban lost at least 3 games every year but once, YOU CALL THAT A TOP 5 PROGRAM. That is laughable.
By 2005 lsu had won 10 games only 4 times in 40 years but yeah top 5 program.
How come when miles loses 3 games you blast him but saban loses 3 games every year but once and you call it a top 5 program. Do you really not see the hypocrisy?
This post was edited on 12/24/14 at 11:02 pm
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