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re: DeBlasio, Obama and every other liberal

Posted on 12/22/14 at 9:40 pm to
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 9:40 pm to
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Being more active in identifying and disciplining the bad ones, as opposed to forming a shield to protect them, would go a long way towards mending this distrust between regular joes and cops.

that works both ways.....how often do the inner city folks work with the police.....are the folks in the ghetto just as guilty of protecting their own.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 9:41 pm to
The media tried to connect the dots. I'd guess no one here agreed.
Posted by boosiebadazz
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 9:42 pm to
Pimp didn't make any threads about it?

Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 9:43 pm to
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Don't let the nana dance yet. I totally forgot about those two in Las Vegas killing the cops eating lunch around the time of the Bundy standoff. I don't remember the Lamestream media indicting conservatism or the Tea Party for that one, but I could be wrong.
Link to any Tea Party violence?



Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 9:43 pm to
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that works both ways.....how often do the inner city folks work with the police.....are the folks in the ghetto just as guilty of protecting their own.



Inner city ain't getting paid bud.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 9:43 pm to
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I don't remember the Lamestream media indicting conservatism or the Tea Party for that one, but I could be wrong.



The only connection that would be arguably reasonable is Bundy. And If there was evidence this guy was convinced by the Bundy drama, I would be willing to say "See you Bundy idiots, calm this shite down."

Same thing should be said to the Brown idiots. Calm the frick down, most of you are too dumb to further whatever goals have occurred to you (if any).
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
10669 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 9:45 pm to
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Inner city ain't getting paid bud.
I'm not sure what you mean with that statement.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 9:46 pm to
The two cop killers in Vegas were at the Bundy ranch for the standoff. I wouldn't call them tea Partiers. But by the standards being used to indict DiBlasio here, they are certainly an almost perfect analogy.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 9:46 pm to
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Gillespie wouldn't disclose more about a motive for the Millers' rampage and declined to say what was contained in a note left with a swastika symbol and a "Don't Tread on Me" flag in the pizza shop where the officers were ambushed.


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Police said previously the Millers shared an ideology with militia and white supremacists that law enforcement officers were oppressors. The couple was kicked out of an encampment of supporters of Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy, who engaged in an armed standoff in April with federal Bureau of Land Management agents trying to round up Bundy cattle in a public land trespassing dispute.


LINK

About as tenuous of a connection as you guys trying to blame the politicians who spoke out about the Ferguson/ Garner stuff.
This post was edited on 12/22/14 at 9:47 pm
Posted by Asgard Device
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 9:48 pm to
How dare anyone criticize government. Government enforcers are sacred cows.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
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79322 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 9:49 pm to
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The two cop killers in Vegas were at the Bundy ranch for the standoff. I wouldn't call them tea Partiers. But by the standards being used to indict DiBlasio here, they are certainly an almost perfect analogy.



And I would say the Bundy fury and this fury were both misdirected with tragic results. This one is larger and more extended, and as a result, the tragedies are already worse.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 9:50 pm to
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This one is larger and more extended, and as a result, the tragedies are already worse.



I think two cops getting executed in a cop car is just as tragic as two cops getting executed while eating at CC's Pizza.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 9:51 pm to
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I think two cops getting executed in a cop car is just as tragic as two cops getting executed while eating at CC's Pizza.



And the millions in property damage, potentially related assaults and murders in Ferguson, etc.?
Posted by Zed
Member since Feb 2010
8315 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 9:53 pm to
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I'm not sure what you mean with that statement.
Law enforcement has to maintain a relationship with those people to do their job effectively, whether they're a pain in the arse or not. It is a JOB.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80399 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 9:56 pm to
Yeah, that's worse. I thought you meant loss of life.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 9:56 pm to
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This one is larger and more extended, and as a result, the tragedies are already worse.


There's a longer history of a conflict narrative with this. Check back in 15-20 years on the Tea Partiers. I have faith they can ratchet it up.
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
10669 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 9:57 pm to
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Law enforcement has to maintain a relationship with those people to do their job effectively, whether they're a pain in the arse or not. It is a JOB.

JOB has nothing to do with each group protecting their own......we all agree that cops shouldn't cover for dirty cops....but at the same time the inner city folk don't want to turn on the dirty guys in the ghetto....you snitches get stitches....its the same thing.....no trust on either side.
Posted by Zed
Member since Feb 2010
8315 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 9:58 pm to
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How dare anyone criticize government. Government enforcers are sacred cows.
He does A DANGEROUS JOB. We NEED HIM. You can't possibly understand the stress, and are UNFIT TO JUDGE HIM. Do you not appreciate his SACRIFICE?
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79322 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 9:59 pm to
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There's a longer history of a conflict narrative with this. Check back in 15-20 years on the Tea Partiers. I have faith they can ratchet it up.



Eh, I'm no fan of the TP, but they really don't use violent rhetoric too often. I agree that the "blood of tyrants" stuff can probably get dicey, but it typically doesn't. That said, I have the same cautionary advice for them as I do the Brown people, just on a smaller scale.

Neither movement is inherently wrong, if the proper arguments and corresponding actions are used. But the TP overstates the tyranny Obama is imposing, and the Brown people just outright lie regarding the status of race relations in the country. I mean, where do you even start with people who claim there is a genocide against black young men (not self imposed) in America?
Posted by Zed
Member since Feb 2010
8315 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:03 pm to
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its the same thing.....no trust on either side.
Making a sincere and meaningful attempt to address the protestors concerns instead of dismissing them as cop haters may have saved the NYPD some grief. Both communities need to work with each other, but it is law enforcements job to make that relationship work, and their responsibility is greater.
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