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re: Is "legitimate rape" placed in quotes and considered offensive because women

Posted on 12/19/14 at 2:02 pm to
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 2:02 pm to
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If alcohol is considered a get-out-of-responsibility-free card for consent to drunken sex, we should make it work that way for any crime.

You mean any issue of consent, not crime. There is not question of consent associated with murder.

Question: Is someone 'under-the-influence' actually able to provide legal consent?
It is a question whose answer forms basis of action in many "rape culture" cases.

"She was drinking," and therefore "unable to consent."
Buying that legal argument is central to the narrative.

Having bought the "consent" argument, it's only a hop-skip-and-jump from "actual" disabling intoxication, to a retrospective and/or false "claim" of intoxication.

Having admitted to sexual contact, our "rape culture" narrative leaves the male defendant having to prove a presumed "assault" was consensual, AND beyond that, prove the woman was sober enough to consent in the first place.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 2:05 pm to
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Question: Is someone 'under-the-influence' actually able to provide legal consent?
It is a question whose answer forms basis of action in many "rape culture" cases.
The problem with the alcohol discussion is that the "rape culture" folks only see it one direction.

If BOTH parties are drunk, they STILL call that rape on the man's part. Um...........there's a problem with that.......

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