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re: Is "legitimate rape" placed in quotes and considered offensive because women
Posted on 12/19/14 at 11:41 am to NC_Tigah
Posted on 12/19/14 at 11:41 am to NC_Tigah
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(1) The individual was drunk, aka unable to consent.
Disagree. They consented, they just regretted the consent once they sobered up.
If alcohol is considered a get-out-of-responsibility-free card for consent to drunken sex, we should make it work that way for any crime.
DUI? I was too drunk to realize I was consenting to driving a vehicle therefore I shouldn't be charged.
Murder? I was too drunk to consenting to stabbing someone 137 times so therefore I shouldn't be charged.
It's a ridiculous argument they are trying to make.
Posted on 12/19/14 at 2:02 pm to Bard
quote:You mean any issue of consent, not crime. There is not question of consent associated with murder.
If alcohol is considered a get-out-of-responsibility-free card for consent to drunken sex, we should make it work that way for any crime.
Question: Is someone 'under-the-influence' actually able to provide legal consent?
It is a question whose answer forms basis of action in many "rape culture" cases.
"She was drinking," and therefore "unable to consent."
Buying that legal argument is central to the narrative.
Having bought the "consent" argument, it's only a hop-skip-and-jump from "actual" disabling intoxication, to a retrospective and/or false "claim" of intoxication.
Having admitted to sexual contact, our "rape culture" narrative leaves the male defendant having to prove a presumed "assault" was consensual, AND beyond that, prove the woman was sober enough to consent in the first place.
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