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What do I need to know about a GSP?
Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:34 am
Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:34 am
I know a few of you have one. A great opportunity has come up for me to purchase one. I have a medium size house with medium size backyard, plenty of space to run around.
What else do I need to know? Any different than a lab?
TIA
What else do I need to know? Any different than a lab?
TIA
Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:49 am to RouxDog91
Owning 3 myself, with a medium sized house and a small-medium sized back yard. Exercise is key. I take my dogs out to run off leash every day. A lot of people say they are too tired, or don't have enough time to do that, blah blah blah. Honestly, it may seem like work at first, but I find it more relaxing and enjoyable than just sitting at home the rest of the evening after getting home from work. Keeping your dog on a routine schedule will also help out a lot.
Because of this, all 3 of mine are couch potatoes during the day at the house. They start to get a little antsy around 4, and when I start getting them ready to go run, they get wild. And typically are passed out before 9:30 every night.
I wouldn't say that exercising the dog every day is an absolute must, but 4-5 days a week, and you will find your dog much more enjoyable in the house.
As far as being the same or different than a a lab, I would say that a GSP has a higher energy level than a lab, but temperaments are pretty close to the same.
Are you planning on training your GSP for any sort of hunting? This is where a major difference occurs between labs and GSP's. In my experience in working with GSP's and labs, you cannot break down a GSP in training like you can a lab; a GSP will shut down and quit working if you put too much pressure, much faster than a lab will. Training a GSP requires much more patience than a lab. My 3 GSP's taught me more about patience than I ever would have thought.
ETA: Are you in the Baton Rouge area? I'd love to help you work with your pup for hunting, and/or just obedience training you would be interested.
Because of this, all 3 of mine are couch potatoes during the day at the house. They start to get a little antsy around 4, and when I start getting them ready to go run, they get wild. And typically are passed out before 9:30 every night.
I wouldn't say that exercising the dog every day is an absolute must, but 4-5 days a week, and you will find your dog much more enjoyable in the house.
As far as being the same or different than a a lab, I would say that a GSP has a higher energy level than a lab, but temperaments are pretty close to the same.
Are you planning on training your GSP for any sort of hunting? This is where a major difference occurs between labs and GSP's. In my experience in working with GSP's and labs, you cannot break down a GSP in training like you can a lab; a GSP will shut down and quit working if you put too much pressure, much faster than a lab will. Training a GSP requires much more patience than a lab. My 3 GSP's taught me more about patience than I ever would have thought.
ETA: Are you in the Baton Rouge area? I'd love to help you work with your pup for hunting, and/or just obedience training you would be interested.
This post was edited on 12/15/14 at 9:53 am
Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:57 am to RouxDog91
They calm down some at 1 and more at age 2. They are great around kids but can have separation anxiety. They are great around people and kids, but they are going to want to hunt. They tend to like to hunt thinks alive and quickly loose interest when they die. Birds get first choice, but fur, lizards and dragon flies also work. They will take as much as you can dish out exercise wise and ask for more...
Posted on 12/15/14 at 10:07 am to RouxDog91
I've never owned a GSP, but I grew up owning English Pointers ever since I was a kid for quail and dove hunting.
Exercise is the most important thing with pointers, and really all working breeds. They have a ton of energy. Good obedience training and making them work will keep them from getting bored though and using that energy to wreck your house. I hate seeing people get hunting breeds and don't train them at all or give them tasks to do, then get pissed when they misbehave and tear stuff up. Like all dogs patience is key while they are young, but pointer breeds may take a little more of it haha.
GSPs are beautiful dogs and you should definitely get one if you are willing to take on the responsibility of it.
ETA: What JTM said about them shutting down is definitely true. We hunt ours in the brush country in south Texas, when they get tired out there and their pads tore up from the brush and cactus, barking orders at them does nothing but shut them down even more. We have 3 in our family so we keep them on a good rotation to not completely wear them down.
Exercise is the most important thing with pointers, and really all working breeds. They have a ton of energy. Good obedience training and making them work will keep them from getting bored though and using that energy to wreck your house. I hate seeing people get hunting breeds and don't train them at all or give them tasks to do, then get pissed when they misbehave and tear stuff up. Like all dogs patience is key while they are young, but pointer breeds may take a little more of it haha.
GSPs are beautiful dogs and you should definitely get one if you are willing to take on the responsibility of it.
ETA: What JTM said about them shutting down is definitely true. We hunt ours in the brush country in south Texas, when they get tired out there and their pads tore up from the brush and cactus, barking orders at them does nothing but shut them down even more. We have 3 in our family so we keep them on a good rotation to not completely wear them down.
This post was edited on 12/15/14 at 10:32 am
Posted on 12/15/14 at 10:17 am to RouxDog91
I have one male ~1.5yo and he is an absolute ball of fire. He's a great dog, beyond loyal, but very needy. I try to work with him at least an hour a day throwing a bumper, or tennis ball. Sometimes there is enough live animals or insects in the yard where I can just sit outside and he'll chase the bird, squirells, and dragon flies on his own.
Mine digs, eats trees, and bamboo, and will chew on rocks and concrete. Despite all that he is very smart, and trainable.
Mine digs, eats trees, and bamboo, and will chew on rocks and concrete. Despite all that he is very smart, and trainable.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 10:19 am to RouxDog91
Having owned labs and now having a GSP, do not expect just a faster, slimmer, short-haired lab!
GSPs are wonderful family dogs, tons of energy. Mine has calmed down at 4 years old and is wonderful with our newborn.
Hunting: the only problem I have is keeping him still while in the duck blind. he had a lot of trouble during force fetch which Ankther poster talked about. You hace to use other means of training other than constant pressure. If you are getting a male, establish yourself early or he will take over as pack leader. (I know, trite, but worth mentioning.) we called mine "violator when he was little because that bastard wanted to hump everything.
GSPs are wonderful family dogs, tons of energy. Mine has calmed down at 4 years old and is wonderful with our newborn.
Hunting: the only problem I have is keeping him still while in the duck blind. he had a lot of trouble during force fetch which Ankther poster talked about. You hace to use other means of training other than constant pressure. If you are getting a male, establish yourself early or he will take over as pack leader. (I know, trite, but worth mentioning.) we called mine "violator when he was little because that bastard wanted to hump everything.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 11:24 am to RouxDog91
quote:They're from Canada.. Like to rear naked choke, former UFC champion, speak terrible English., etc
What do I need to know about a GSP?
This post was edited on 12/15/14 at 11:26 am
Posted on 12/15/14 at 7:57 pm to RouxDog91
First, overall great input by previous posters. Nailed it on GSPs. Mine is a little over a year now but I'll add this.... If you have medium house/backyard you have to have an alternative place to work the dog outside of that. A medium yard is really just a place to to poop and pee. If you are planning on training in the yard it's virtually pointless - if you are planning to keep it in the yard make sure you have at least 8 ft fences (they climb). I wouldn't get the dog unless you have some places to train/take it in mind already.
That said, training easy enough if you are dedicated (dedicated meaning you are happy to spend a couple hours a day getting the dog where it needs to be). They are exceptionally quick learners but unlike a lab they do not turn off. They tire and you will tire well before they do.
My biggest struggle, living in a medium size house is that the pointer will always feel busy. Even indoors she is looking for something to do. Something to find etc. can't take my eyes off of her. Store away anything and you have food or otherwise.
That said, training easy enough if you are dedicated (dedicated meaning you are happy to spend a couple hours a day getting the dog where it needs to be). They are exceptionally quick learners but unlike a lab they do not turn off. They tire and you will tire well before they do.
My biggest struggle, living in a medium size house is that the pointer will always feel busy. Even indoors she is looking for something to do. Something to find etc. can't take my eyes off of her. Store away anything and you have food or otherwise.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 2:03 am to RouxDog91
My ex got one when we were together. That dog was extremely loyal and friendly, just a big ball of energy. She would stand at the door and look out every time someone walked by, she was very protective. That being said, when ever someone new came around the dog she was fine as long as the person was their with someone the dog trusts. Before the ex got her, I wasn't a huge dog guy and I preferred labs but not anymore. That dog was so lovable it's unreal. I definitely recommend GSPs to everyone looking for a dog now.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 5:43 am to RouxDog91
I'll put it a little more bluntly than the rest of he posters have here, don't waste your time trying to duck hunt them. They don't like the cold water and more than likely your dog won't fetch a dead bird. I say this because I have wasted 1,000's of dollars trying to get one to retrieve and he simply won't. I do have a female that will out swim most labs, but the cold water is a big challenge. She'll fetch any dead bird and love doing it, but if the water is ~40 degrees she likely won't get to the duck.
Save your time, $, and countless hours of frustration and don't retriever train it because it more than likely won't have the natural drive to do so. It's probably not what you want to hear and most will likely disagree with me, but that's what I have learned about these dogs over the last 4 years.
Save your time, $, and countless hours of frustration and don't retriever train it because it more than likely won't have the natural drive to do so. It's probably not what you want to hear and most will likely disagree with me, but that's what I have learned about these dogs over the last 4 years.
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