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Here's why working class people should hate every member of the Supreme Court

Posted on 12/10/14 at 7:16 am
Posted by samson'sseed
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Posted on 12/10/14 at 7:16 am
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The Supreme Court upheld the right of employers to detain their workers without pay to make sure they aren't stealing.

Even Forbes Magazine, a conservative business publication, thinks this ruling was wrong.

Yet, the ruling was unanimous.

I find this ruling incredibly unfair. Only eggheads who have not worked a real job in decades could decide that a worker's time is not worth money.

It reminds me of slavery.

How pissed would you be, if your employer forced you to clock out, then made you stand in line for 25 minutes to walk through an x-ray machine to make sure you aren't stealing?

It's also an insult for them to assume their workers are stealing.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99123 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 7:17 am to
Already discussed.

Another reason we should be happy Obamacare got rid of "job lock."
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
31644 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 7:23 am to
What does the law say?
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68423 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 7:24 am to
As I said in another thread, why should an employee get paid for the time it takes to go through a security check necessitated because of employee bad behavior?
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 7:25 am to

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Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
12398 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 7:29 am to
Do you believe that employees should be compensated for the time it takes to park and walk to their work area? Because that's about the average amount of time it took to get through security screenings.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124180 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 7:31 am to
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Here's why working class people should hate every member of the Supreme Court
You're attempting a divisive argument based on an apparently ambiguous term, "working class". Could you define "working class" as you intended it here?

FYI, I am under the impression ALL employees must participate in the security screening. Hence the question.

BTW, "off the clock requirements" are total BS IMO. But so is the "working class" meme.
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
17490 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 7:34 am to
Does the employer get compensated for conducting the searches? You should agree with this ruling.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126963 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 7:38 am to
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How pissed would you be, if your employer forced you to clock out, then made you stand in line for 25 minutes to walk through an x-ray machine to make sure you aren't stealing?
Since I know I have skills that are in demand by many employers (unlike you), I would just go work somewhere else if my employer's policy upset me.

Why don't you get a job in the real world?
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 7:47 am to
I thought you loved the Supreme Court?
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54230 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 7:48 am to
According to your link the employees at Amazon are not union employees, thus they don't have much bargaining power as a group. These are hourly wage employees it seems. If these were salaried employees we wouldn't be hearing a peep about the extra few minutes required to check out.

So, for you anti-union folks who think these employees should be getting compensated, this is one good case of why you now see why unions get formed.

From the looks of it, it's rather evident that Amazon doesn't want a union and the employees don't want a guaranteed salary type payments. To sum up, you got to do what you're told if you want t keep your job.



Posted by TheFolker
Member since Aug 2011
5193 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 7:50 am to
quote:

How pissed would you be, if your employer forced you to clock out, then made you stand in line for 25 minutes to walk through an x-ray machine to make sure you aren't stealing?


Maybe they could just make their workers work naked like Wesley Snipes did in the crack house in New Jack City.
Posted by mostbesttigerfanever
TD platinum member suite in TS
Member since Jan 2010
5016 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 7:55 am to
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samson'sseed


let me get one thing clear....i don't like pretty much everything you stand for

that said:

I kind of agree with you (and Forbes). But the fact is this is just another example of the few f-ing it up for the many (it's the same reason that we struggle with the whole muslim vs extremist thing and where to draw the line).

quote:

Only eggheads who have not worked a real job in decades could decide that a worker's time is not worth money.


this is THE biggest problem in DC (and politics in general)
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
10669 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 9:01 am to
Should employees also pay workers for the time it takes them to commute to work? If Bob has a 45 minute drive to work and Ted has a 10 minute drive, should Bob get paid more money?
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56674 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 9:20 am to
quote:

The Supreme Court upheld the right of employers to detain their workers without pay to make sure they aren't stealing.

Even Forbes Magazine, a conservative business publication, thinks this ruling was wrong.

Yet, the ruling was unanimous.

I find this ruling incredibly unfair. Only eggheads who have not worked a real job in decades could decide that a worker's time is not worth money.

It reminds me of slavery.



Workers aren't forced to work this job. Your socialist point of view is clouding your vision on this issue.

This is a good thing. It allows business owners to contract with employees who are willing to accept the terms of employment.
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 10:24 am to
Big law firms hire PR firms to shape public opinion to try and create outrage around their case. Dollars to doughnuts that's what's really going on with this one.
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