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re: Cop who shot Tamir Rice had Previous Issues

Posted on 12/5/14 at 7:57 am to
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 12/5/14 at 7:57 am to
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I think the Orange tip thing is a red herring.


I just meant, generally. I'm not fully plugged into this one and, Ace Midnight's rule #1 "The first report is always wrong"

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The kid didn't get the gun out of his waistband.


Meh - if the cop saw him reach for it, the orange ring would have been irrelevant, but I don't know if the standard requires you allow the suspect to draw, merely that he express the intent and ability to resist with lethal force.

In any event, looks/sounds like another incident of overpolicing and having a cop on the street who pissed his pants at the first sign of trouble, instead of a calm, rational, mature, thoughtful human being (not all cops, mind you, but this cop).



Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111611 posts
Posted on 12/5/14 at 8:00 am to
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if the cop saw him reach for it, the orange ring would have been irrelevant, but I don't know if the standard requires you allow the suspect to draw, merely that he express the intent and ability to resist with lethal force.


I'm not connecting it to the justifiable or lack thereof of the shoot. I'm just saying the focus on it is irrelevant for this case.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29678 posts
Posted on 12/5/14 at 8:56 am to
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In any event, looks/sounds like another incident of overpolicing and having a cop on the street who pissed his pants at the first sign of trouble, instead of a calm, rational, mature, thoughtful human being (not all cops, mind you, but this cop). 

Well the most glaring problem with that shooting was the fricktard driving the police cruiser who pulled up 10 feet away from a suspected gunman! If the moron driving would have stopped a hundred feet away and taken cover behind the car and spoken to the kid on the PA system/bullhorn, this shooting could have been avoided.

I'm sure being in such close proximity to the kid when the cop exited the car was a huge factor in why he shot so quickly.
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