re: So was Garner put in a choke hold or not?

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I'm guessing you have no idea who Kelly Thomas is.

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The Kelly Thomas case is very different than this case.

Of the six officers present when the horrible beating of Thomas occurred, two of them were charged with second degree murder and involuntary manslaughter and eventually went to trial but were found not guilty of any criminal charges. After the verdicts, the DA chose not to proceed with the third officer's trial.

Based on the 35 minute video, I disagree with the verdicts. If I was a member of the jury I would have convicted the two police officers of 2nd degree murder.

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I'm not a fan of anarchy.

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If you want to stop police officers from using reasonable physical force in order to subdue someone who is resisting arrest then you are in favor of anarchy whether you know it or not.

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I'm not a fan of cops with no accountability.

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Neither am I.

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I'm not a fan of a system which will not or cannot, because of structural reasons, hold police officers accountable for their actions.

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The system wanted to hold the 3 police officers accountable for their actions but apparently the jurors didn't.

That's not the fault of the system. That's the fault of the jurors.

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Pretending everything that happened in the Eric Garner case is justified will only heighten the divide between law enforcement and civilians.

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Pretending that Garner is not responsible for the legal physical force that the police had to use in order to subdue him will only heighten the divide between law enforcement and civilians.

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I think the divide has always been there. The civilians are just starting to notice.

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There will always be a divide between those civilians who will obey the lawful order of a police officer and those that won't.

It's the difference between being smart and being stupid.