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re: So Baylor hired a PR firm to lobby for a playoff spot....
Posted on 12/2/14 at 10:56 am to tylercsbn9
Posted on 12/2/14 at 10:56 am to tylercsbn9
It seems like everyone is forgetting about how the Big 10 got obliterated in September when they played other Power 5 teams. You can't just ignore the full body of work.
Now, all the top teams don't play each other in conference so you get Wisconsin, Michigan State, and Ohio State getting to double digit wins by padding up against Illinois, Northwestern, Maryland, Rutgers, Purdue, Iowa, Nebraska, Minnesota, Michigan, and a few others.
Michigan State still lost to the only two good teams they played, but hey, they are a top 10 team so good win for the Buckeyes! (And my team has been hanging their hat on a win over MSU.)
Wisconsin is in the same boat. Ranked 11th with 10 wins vs a bunch of middling conference teams and two losses to LSU and Northwestern. Also didn't have to play Michigan State.
Iowa State went freakin 2-9 with 0 Big 12 wins but won at Iowa, who went 7-5.
I just don't see a way you can possibly jump Ohio State over TCU/Baylor should all three win this weekend.
And Baylor's problem is with the Big 12 conference itself who essentially does not acknowledge head to head results.
Now, all the top teams don't play each other in conference so you get Wisconsin, Michigan State, and Ohio State getting to double digit wins by padding up against Illinois, Northwestern, Maryland, Rutgers, Purdue, Iowa, Nebraska, Minnesota, Michigan, and a few others.
Michigan State still lost to the only two good teams they played, but hey, they are a top 10 team so good win for the Buckeyes! (And my team has been hanging their hat on a win over MSU.)
Wisconsin is in the same boat. Ranked 11th with 10 wins vs a bunch of middling conference teams and two losses to LSU and Northwestern. Also didn't have to play Michigan State.
Iowa State went freakin 2-9 with 0 Big 12 wins but won at Iowa, who went 7-5.
I just don't see a way you can possibly jump Ohio State over TCU/Baylor should all three win this weekend.
And Baylor's problem is with the Big 12 conference itself who essentially does not acknowledge head to head results.
This post was edited on 12/2/14 at 10:58 am
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 10:59 am to bags03
If Wisconsin didnt frick up against Northwestern they would easily be in the top 4. That is assuming they beat Ohio St.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 11:25 am to bags03
Here are the power 5 opponents the Big 12 played:
Won:
Tennessee (6-6)
Iowa (7-5)
Maryland (7-5)
Minnesota (8-4)
Lost:
Florida State (12-0)
Alabama (11-1)
UCLA (9-3)
Duke (9-3)
Auburn (8-4)
Arkansas (6-6)
If your signature nonconference win is Buffalo, you'd better go unbeaten.
Won:
Tennessee (6-6)
Iowa (7-5)
Maryland (7-5)
Minnesota (8-4)
Lost:
Florida State (12-0)
Alabama (11-1)
UCLA (9-3)
Duke (9-3)
Auburn (8-4)
Arkansas (6-6)
If your signature nonconference win is Buffalo, you'd better go unbeaten.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 11:47 am to bags03
quote:
It seems like everyone is forgetting about how the Big 10 got obliterated in September when they played other Power 5 teams. You can't just ignore the full body of work.
Now, all the top teams don't play each other in conference so you get Wisconsin, Michigan State, and Ohio State getting to double digit wins by padding up against Illinois, Northwestern, Maryland, Rutgers, Purdue, Iowa, Nebraska, Minnesota, Michigan, and a few others.
Michigan State still lost to the only two good teams they played, but hey, they are a top 10 team so good win for the Buckeyes! (And my team has been hanging their hat on a win over MSU.)
Wisconsin is in the same boat. Ranked 11th with 10 wins vs a bunch of middling conference teams and two losses to LSU and Northwestern. Also didn't have to play Michigan State.
Iowa State went freakin 2-9 with 0 Big 12 wins but won at Iowa, who went 7-5.
I just don't see a way you can possibly jump Ohio State over TCU/Baylor should all three win this weekend.
And Baylor's problem is with the Big 12 conference itself who essentially does not acknowledge head to head results.
Yep, I lol at the fact Michigan State is ranked so high. MState and Wisconsin best wins are Nebraska followed by Maryland.
The best though is how the committee continues to rank Minnesota so high. Massey has them at 34 but the committee will likely see them as a T20 team tonight. Their best wins are Nebraska, Iowa, and NWestern :lol
Posted on 12/2/14 at 12:09 pm to bags03
quote:
t seems like everyone is forgetting about how the Big 10 got obliterated in September when they played other Power 5 teams. You can't just ignore the full body of work.
Now, all the top teams don't play each other in conference so you get Wisconsin, Michigan State, and Ohio State getting to double digit wins by padding up against Illinois, Northwestern, Maryland, Rutgers, Purdue, Iowa, Nebraska, Minnesota, Michigan, and a few others.
Sounds strangely like how bad the Pac12 N is. No USC or ASU but why not Oregon is great!
I just have no idea how you differentiate. I'm not saying OSU should be in for sure, but they have 2 good road wins, and will have a 3rd at a neutral site
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