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The "not ready" or "he will be ruined" are the dumbest excuses, I'll prove it
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:18 pm
Why wasn't LF "ruined" when he played early? It was obvious he was uncomfortable and had to adjust to the game when he first got reps. Isn't it obvious that after a couple of games the game came to him and he was as ready as any back on the team?
It's the same with any young inexperienced player. Many times, the player in front of them is at least capable of solid performances.
So why then, as it pertains to Harris, many of you can't understand he needs snaps to be fully comfortable. We have seen when he is comfortable, he's lights out! We have not seen that with Jennings. It's simply not there and he IS comfortable in the system.
But this "ruining" a player is simply a cop out go to expression that has no merit. Good players ball, bad players fizzle out.....playing a game doesn't ruin leaders, it creates them!
It's the same with any young inexperienced player. Many times, the player in front of them is at least capable of solid performances.
So why then, as it pertains to Harris, many of you can't understand he needs snaps to be fully comfortable. We have seen when he is comfortable, he's lights out! We have not seen that with Jennings. It's simply not there and he IS comfortable in the system.
But this "ruining" a player is simply a cop out go to expression that has no merit. Good players ball, bad players fizzle out.....playing a game doesn't ruin leaders, it creates them!
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:19 pm to GeeOH
Can't argue with any of that.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:20 pm to GeeOH
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Why wasn't LF "ruined" when he played early? It was obvious he was uncomfortable and had to adjust to the game when he first got reps. Isn't it obvious that after a couple of games the game came to him and he was as ready as any back on the team?
Developing a RB =/= developing a QB.
Wouldn't mind seeing Harris on the field though.
This post was edited on 11/20/14 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:20 pm to GeeOH
I bet A&M fans are sure happy Sumlin didn't quit throwing Allen out there after his egg he laid against Monroe. He sure didn't get ruined.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:21 pm to GeeOH
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But this "ruining" a player is simply a cop out go to expression that has no merit.
It was started to defend the poor performance of a different QB (this one a RS Frosh).
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:22 pm to GeeOH
Yeah, it takes no smarts to be a running back, and that is no offense to Fournette. QB like no other position takes time to learn.
This post was edited on 11/20/14 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:26 pm to GeeOH
Did you really just compare the rb position to the qb?
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:30 pm to GeeOH
quote:Are you really comparing what a RB has to do with what a QB has to do?
Why wasn't LF "ruined" when he played early?
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:33 pm to GeeOH
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Why wasn't LF "ruined" when he played early? It was obvious he was uncomfortable and had to adjust to the game when he first got reps. Isn't it obvious that after a couple of games the game came to him and he was as ready as any back on the team?
7 touches vs Arky. 7.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:40 pm to GeeOH
We should've used the cupcake games to develop the passing game. Can't for the life of me wonder why we don't use the easy games to help get AJ and Harris comfortable in the passing game. Once we are up by three scores , we should pass at least 75% of the time.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:43 pm to GeeOH
Magee and Hilliard both average more yards per touch than LF. Maybe the team would've been better off bringing him along slower.
He is getting less and less productive each game, maybe you disproved your own point trying to prove your point
He is getting less and less productive each game, maybe you disproved your own point trying to prove your point
This post was edited on 11/20/14 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:48 pm to GeeOH
Agree with everything in the OP. This was supposed to be a "rebuilding year" and I feel like we have accomplished nothing at the QB position. Harris should have seen much more playing time this year to get comfortable running the offense.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:50 pm to GeeOH
dude. I'm not 100% disagreeing with you but to compare an RB to a QB is dumb. Maybe you could stretch it to MLB.
QB requires all kinds of extra work.
Also, not everyone is the same mentally. To say players being "ruined" has NO merit isn't true. Sorry. Players do have their swagger messed up by getting out there too soon. Look at the AU game. It was too soon.
QB requires all kinds of extra work.
Also, not everyone is the same mentally. To say players being "ruined" has NO merit isn't true. Sorry. Players do have their swagger messed up by getting out there too soon. Look at the AU game. It was too soon.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:56 pm to GeeOH
Anyone who doesn't think Brandon Harris should've gotten in the Arkansas game and/or should get playing time in the A&M game is a dumb motherfricker
Posted on 11/20/14 at 2:16 pm to GeeOH
The problem with playing a QB before he is ready is that the QB develops bad habits. The more the bad habits occur, the more difficult it is to break the QB of the bad habits.
Bailing out of a clean pocket is one example. Inexperienced QBs tend to bail when they "feel" pressure even when it's not there. It takes maturity and trust to stay in a pocket. It's one of the harder things to teach a QB. It's much easier to develop this skill at practice under controlled circumstances. It's a very hard habit to break.
Improvising rather than running the play called is another example of a bad habit that QBs can get into. No doubt that improvisation can be good when the play breaks down; however, some QBs tend to improvise too early or too much. It's easier to defend a QB who improvises too much, and improvisation can lead to all kinds of bad things: throwing into additional coverage, throwing into unexpected or unseen coverage, throwing across your body late on a play, foregoing check downs, improper throwing technique, etc.
FTR: I'm not saying that any QB will be ruined by playing too early. However, I’ll let the coaches who get to see Harris and Jennings everyday make that decision.
Bailing out of a clean pocket is one example. Inexperienced QBs tend to bail when they "feel" pressure even when it's not there. It takes maturity and trust to stay in a pocket. It's one of the harder things to teach a QB. It's much easier to develop this skill at practice under controlled circumstances. It's a very hard habit to break.
Improvising rather than running the play called is another example of a bad habit that QBs can get into. No doubt that improvisation can be good when the play breaks down; however, some QBs tend to improvise too early or too much. It's easier to defend a QB who improvises too much, and improvisation can lead to all kinds of bad things: throwing into additional coverage, throwing into unexpected or unseen coverage, throwing across your body late on a play, foregoing check downs, improper throwing technique, etc.
FTR: I'm not saying that any QB will be ruined by playing too early. However, I’ll let the coaches who get to see Harris and Jennings everyday make that decision.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 2:25 pm to GeeOH
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"not ready"
Our QBs never seem to be fully ready or fully developed. Playbook always in Secret-Mode. Even during games they appear to just be on the sideline by themselves. Our QB coaching has been lacking under Miles. I don't think anyone can argue that.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 2:47 pm to GeeOH
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But this "ruining" a player is simply a cop out go to expression that has no merit. Good players ball, bad players fizzle out.....playing a game doesn't ruin leaders, it creates them!
:kige:
Posted on 11/20/14 at 3:17 pm to GeeOH
When Harris led all them td drives he wasn't using the playbook.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 3:22 pm to GeeOH
I would add this
SInce we don't have a passing game, Letting BH play QB gives us an additional run threat. AJ runs ok but he is not as fast or elusive as BH
SO if Les is not gonna throw- Lets put another running back in the backfield
Heck lets run the wishbone with LF,Magee, Williams and Harris
Maybe we could out Bear the Bear
SInce we don't have a passing game, Letting BH play QB gives us an additional run threat. AJ runs ok but he is not as fast or elusive as BH
SO if Les is not gonna throw- Lets put another running back in the backfield
Heck lets run the wishbone with LF,Magee, Williams and Harris
Maybe we could out Bear the Bear
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