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re: Keystone Pipeline fails Senate by 1 vote
Posted on 11/18/14 at 8:03 pm to joeleblanc
Posted on 11/18/14 at 8:03 pm to joeleblanc
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Because rail is so much better.
How is rail so much better?
Check your sarcasm meter.
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And the Chinese refining the oil instead of clean US refineries is so much better.
How?
Again, check your sarcasm meter.
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Do you even environmental?
DO I environment? what is that???
"Do you even..." is just a message board way of saying "do you understand the topic". It started out as "do you even lift?" on the OT.
The point I was trying to make is, the Canadian Oil Sands crude is coming to market regardless of President Obama's approval of Keystone or not.
Ask yourself this question, would you rather have US refineries refining this crude (that are under strict US EPA regulations) or would you rather have some other under-regulated refineries like in China refine this crude? Remember, the Canadian Oil Sands is a heavier crude and requires a more energy intensive process (more cracking) to get the the various hydrocarbons to market.
Meanwhile, much of the crude does get to the refineries on the gulf coast, but by rail. This pleases the main oil sands transportation benefactor, Warren Buffet who owns Burlington Railroad. And BTW, rail impacts the environment negatively muuuuuuuuuch more than a pipeline that leaves a grassy knoll in its path that wildlife thrive off of.
...can't believe I have to explain this at this point.
Posted on 11/18/14 at 8:08 pm to GumboPot
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quote:quote:Because rail is so much better. How is rail so much better? Check your sarcasm meter. quote:quote:And the Chinese refining the oil instead of clean US refineries is so much better. How? Again, check your sarcasm meter. quote:quote:Do you even environmental? DO I environment? what is that??? "Do you even..." is just a message board way of saying "do you understand the topic". It started out as "do you even lift?" on the OT. The point I was trying to make is, the Canadian Oil Sands crude is coming to market regardless of President Obama's approval of Keystone or not. Ask yourself this question, would you rather have US refineries refining this crude (that are under strict US EPA regulations) or would you rather have some other under-regulated refineries like in China refine this crude? Remember, the Canadian Oil Sands is a heavier crude and requires a more energy intensive process (more cracking) to get the the various hydrocarbons to market. Meanwhile, much of the crude does get to the refineries on the gulf coast, but by rail. This pleases the main oil sands transportation benefactor, Warren Buffet who owns Burlington Railroad. And BTW, rail impacts the environment negatively muuuuuuuuuch more than a pipeline that leaves a grassy knoll in its path that wildlife thrive off of. ...can't believe I have to explain this at this point.
Not being sarcastic at all. I'd rather have in in a pipeline than on rail. I'd rather have it refined in the USA, thus providing jobs than overseas.
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