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re: Has Israel ever started a round of hostilities?

Posted on 11/19/14 at 8:51 pm to
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 11/19/14 at 8:51 pm to
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Actually Egypt has beem America's most reliable asset in the region for 40 years. They take the money and comply with the conditions.
I don't think you can use the present tense here any more, not with al-Sisi. He's a lot closer to Israel than he is to us.

Israel as a whole appears to be thinking long-term and is making diplomatic inroads with the Sunni autocrat axis (which I'll loosely define as Egypt, Saudi, UAE, and Jordan) as a hedge for when the West finally cuts bait.

This is thinking very long-term, as while I'm sure State already realizes this, I expect they'll get another generation of free support out of pure inertia among the US populace (and Congress especially). But our strategic interests don't really align any more.
This post was edited on 11/19/14 at 8:56 pm
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 11/19/14 at 8:53 pm to
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I don't think you can use the present tense here any more, not with al-Sisi. He's a lot closer to Israel than he is to us.



I disagree. In recent history the key to leverage in Egypt has been through the military and that doorway has become considerably wider in the last 2 years.


This post was edited on 11/19/14 at 8:54 pm
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 11/19/14 at 10:17 pm to
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Israel as a whole appears to be thinking long-term and is making diplomatic inroads with the Sunni autocrat axis (which I'll loosely define as Egypt, Saudi, UAE, and Jordan) as a hedge for when the West finally cuts bait.

This is thinking very long-term, as while I'm sure State already realizes this, I expect they'll get another generation of free support out of pure inertia among the US populace (and Congress especially). But our strategic interests don't really align any more.


Lot of good stuff In here. Jordan is a unique animal in the context of a sunni axis, and Saudi has significant barriers to a meaninful relationship with Israel (both economically and politically). Egypt has long held the strongest position with regards to Israel having advantages that aren't possible in other sunni states.

Good points man. You got me thinking.
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