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re: Has Israel ever started a round of hostilities?
Posted on 11/19/14 at 5:02 pm to Iosh
Posted on 11/19/14 at 5:02 pm to Iosh
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Does Egypt get its own dickriding thread every week where someone confidently asserts that Egypt is the Most Moral Country that has never done anything wrong?
this.
Actually Egypt has beem America's most reliable asset in the region for 40 years. They take the money and comply with the conditions. Israel is the opposite of compliant and despite massive aid, they steal, spy and cajole the US into conflicts and use their relationship with the US as leverage. Our return on Investment with Israel is miniscule in the good years and well into the negatives in the bad years (most of them).
I could really care less about Palestinians except that the US is associated with everything Israel does and that association has played a role in undermining national security.
That being said, i do have several Palestinian/American friends and they are great people who cook some good arse food. I just dont have enough care in me for the whole planet.
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Posted on 11/19/14 at 7:30 pm to MrCarton
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Israel is the opposite of compliant and despite massive aid, they steal, spy and cajole the US into conflicts and use their relationship with the US as leverage. Our return on Investment with Israel is miniscule in the good years and well into the negatives in the bad years (most of them).
Return on investment? Name a few countries who we give aid to that actually do sh*t for us in return.
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Actually Egypt has beem America's most reliable asset in the region for 40 years
Why don't you ask Anwar Sadat how that worked out for him. I'm sure after that, none of the other nations leaders would THINK about peace with Israel, not that they were before Sadat was assassinated anyway.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 8:51 pm to MrCarton
quote:I don't think you can use the present tense here any more, not with al-Sisi. He's a lot closer to Israel than he is to us.
Actually Egypt has beem America's most reliable asset in the region for 40 years. They take the money and comply with the conditions.
Israel as a whole appears to be thinking long-term and is making diplomatic inroads with the Sunni autocrat axis (which I'll loosely define as Egypt, Saudi, UAE, and Jordan) as a hedge for when the West finally cuts bait.
This is thinking very long-term, as while I'm sure State already realizes this, I expect they'll get another generation of free support out of pure inertia among the US populace (and Congress especially). But our strategic interests don't really align any more.
This post was edited on 11/19/14 at 8:56 pm
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