re: In his first couple of years it was "he's playing with Sabans players"

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1/9/12 minus the entire 2011 season = 0

Sorry if you don't see it that way, but what happened on 1/9 undid all that was accomplished in 2011.

Do you think the Patriots ever say "We finished the regular season and playoffs undefeated" ? No, you know why? B/C they were owned by the Giants in the SuperBowl.
You can't hold on to a very successful regular season if you can't finish it out with a win in the championship game.

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