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re: To all the real basketball guys on this board
Posted on 11/13/14 at 3:13 pm to tigersbb
Posted on 11/13/14 at 3:13 pm to tigersbb
Honestly, when we sneak into the playoffs I guarantee that we are the last team someone wants to see that early. The top tier talent level is deep, and Anthony Davis is someone that's capable of taking over a playoff series.
People can bash the bench all they want. If we stay healthy, there is 0% chance we miss the playoffs. People forget the absolute garbage we trotted out from the CP3 era. Sean Marks, Devin Brown, Ryan Bowen, Bobby Jackson, Julian Wright, and those are just people in the top 8-10 MP.
They have to start beating some good teams, but them taking care of the garbage teams is a very promising sign. Strap on, enjoy the ride.
Here's that 07-08 championship caliber team and that buzzsaw that was their bench.
07-08 MPG
ETA: Forgot the part that will be the biggest reason we won't go anywhere in the playoffs, even if we lucked into a 1st round upset. Monty Williams. The prospects of him coaching vs any Western playoff team over 7 games is frightening.
People can bash the bench all they want. If we stay healthy, there is 0% chance we miss the playoffs. People forget the absolute garbage we trotted out from the CP3 era. Sean Marks, Devin Brown, Ryan Bowen, Bobby Jackson, Julian Wright, and those are just people in the top 8-10 MP.
They have to start beating some good teams, but them taking care of the garbage teams is a very promising sign. Strap on, enjoy the ride.
Here's that 07-08 championship caliber team and that buzzsaw that was their bench.
07-08 MPG
ETA: Forgot the part that will be the biggest reason we won't go anywhere in the playoffs, even if we lucked into a 1st round upset. Monty Williams. The prospects of him coaching vs any Western playoff team over 7 games is frightening.
This post was edited on 11/13/14 at 3:31 pm
Posted on 11/13/14 at 4:08 pm to ShamelessPel
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Here's that 07-08 championship caliber team and that buzzsaw that was their bench.
You are totally passing over how good that team was at the top. You are talking about a top 5 player in the league, a solid all star level PF, a guy that was probably the best defensive player in the league and then one of the best 3pt shooters/closers in the league. We have some very similar players and situations but we are not as clearly defined. That team had balance and everyone knew where they fit.
I think the bench deal is totally overrated. The problems we have is first our superstar is still learning and growing (he'll figure all that out in time). Second we do not have a strong number 2 player. Third we are not tough enough (not a dirty/mean player in the bunch). Lastly we have too many 3rd level guys that they are chocking each other out, so that none of them can really shine.
Evans, Holiday and Gordon can all be good players. But their roles/minutes/positions change almost every game. It's hard to get in the groove that way. Plus their styles clash with one another. I don't think any of the three can play to the fullest capability with one of the others. I think 2 of the 3 should go. It's addition by subtraction. But they aren't going anywhere of consequence until they figure the backcourt out.
Posted on 11/13/14 at 5:26 pm to ShamelessPel
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People can bash the bench all they want. If we stay healthy, there is 0% chance we miss the playoffs.
When the 2nd unit is on the floor, the worse team in the league can score on them at will (see the Lakers game for a case in point). Look at what happened last night in the 2nd quarter and in the 4th. Monty was shitting on himself wondering if he had pulled the starters too early; a 20 point lead went to 9 in less than 2 minutes. They weren't even smart enough to run time off the clock.
The Pelican bench may well be the worse in the entire league.
The first unit can't carry to whole load...even if the guys stay healthy.
This post was edited on 11/13/14 at 5:35 pm
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