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re: Thoughts on the 2015 Ford Charger...err Mustang??

Posted on 11/8/14 at 11:56 pm to
Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
13408 posts
Posted on 11/8/14 at 11:56 pm to
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Drastic differences to you is same-old, same-old to me.


^I'm thinking this...

Apparently looks to you and looks to me have different meanings. You should have said the shape of cars is the similar...not looks. Cars do not all look the same. Anyone can tell a Camry apart from a Mercedes E class...or a Chrysler 200 from a VW Passat. That being said, would you have argued the same thing 40+ years ago? Because by your standards, a 1970 Impala is similar in shape to a 1970 Galaxie 500...and that was before CAFE was enacted...so what's the reasoning for that?

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Did you say "always"? CAFE hasn't "always" been either. Designers were only constrained by the people they worked for.


Yes, I said always...and you took it out of context. I didn't say it meaning CAFE has always been around...I know that it hasn't. Let's try to keep things in context.

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since they will always chose mommy's Jag over any American made car. I don't like them because they didn't like my first car, a '65 intermediate with a big block, or my second car a '66 intermediate with a big block, my '70 Challenger and the list goes on. I'm sure they wouldn't appreciate the more recent 1000 h.p. car we built, our first 650 h.p. 2k lb. Cobra kit car or the one we are building right now. In fact they would under rate nearly every car I have owned. Their reported numbers usually differ from our experience as well as the numbers reported by other top tier rags. Bottom tier or top tier is not relevant. What is relevant is factual information which is where they drop the ball.


I used my mom's car as an example because I personally drive a truck which is not pertinent to this discussion...but thanks for being a condescending prick about it.

Anyway, so you admit you don't like MT because they bad mouthed/didn't like a car you owned and thought was good? That's just being biased. I'm a mopar guy and they bad mouth plenty of mopar/chrysler products...but I still remain objective when reading any review of any other vehicle. The writers of MT, and all other publications, do that for a living...I won't let them make my mind up for me, but I won't say they are wrong because they said something I didn't like about a vehicle I own. That being said, it certainly explains why you get so butthurt when a stranger challenges your opinion on something and rather than just have a discussion you'd rather resort to being arrogant and condescending.


ETA: Oh and regarding this tidbit...
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since they will always chose mommy's Jag over any American made car


Motor Trend's Best Driver's Car of 2014 was the Camaro Z/28; and their 2014 Car of the Year was the Cadillac CTS.
This post was edited on 11/9/14 at 12:03 am
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
18906 posts
Posted on 11/9/14 at 9:25 am to
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You should have said the shape of cars is the similar...not looks.

I said exactly what I meant and provided pictures to prove it. Compared to cars of yore those that you chose make my point. They are all of the cookie cutter cars with styling cue differences. They all stay right near that lowest cd shape. Thanks.
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Because by your standards, a 1970 Impala is similar in shape to a 1970 Galaxie 500...

You add things into what other people say when you are face to face also??
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Yes, I said always..

Uhhhh, what other meaning is there for "always"? Put periods of time in your remarks mebbe??
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That being said, it certainly explains why you get so butthurt when a stranger challenges your opinion on something and rather than just have a discussion you'd rather resort to being arrogant and condescending.

"arrogant and condescending" and a "prick"?? .. yeah, to someone that challenged my statement without explanation. Just consider it deserved. Note to junior: I'm the one that has provided proof of point soooo thanks for being a dumbass that argues from the heart (not head) and can't recognize a person that could advance your car knowledge by untold numbers.
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The writers of MT, and all other publications, do that for a living...

You've said similar before. You failed to read and understand something I said earlier. Slightly differently this time, MT has consistently shown over the years a bias toward European cars. As European and domestic have gotten more alike they may chose domestic. The fly in the ointment is THEIR DATA NEVER MATCHES OTHER PUBLICATION'S DATA .... AND THOSE GUYS DO IT FOR A LIVING TOO. Their data never matches ours either BUT ours matches other publications.
You have opinions but you have no facts, experience, history, etc. in the automotive industry. I'm really wasting my time because of the division in knowledge. Your life if totally in info from a rag and the cars you see on the highway. I did a brake job on a friends Chev. 2500 last night while watching the football game. I've done this kind of stuff for longer than you have been alive. Think next time before you call someone's post "bullshite" but can't back it up. Ask me nicely and you can help prep our Cobra body for paint. Now do you want me to school you on motorcycles? Ever rode a rotary engine bike??
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