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re: Thoughts on the 2015 Ford Charger...err Mustang??
Posted on 11/8/14 at 6:24 pm to jordan21210
Posted on 11/8/14 at 6:24 pm to jordan21210
You must be very young.
But it is. Swallow your pride because mommy's car is just a few design cues away from the Fusion. Now I see where you are coming from. Not much experience and using open ended observations and predictions. Of course the cookie cutter shape of today is the opinion of older people. Younger people never knew anything but styling cue differences. Drastic differences to you is same-old, same-old to me.
You say
is simply not true. Did you say "always"? CAFE hasn't "always" been either. Designers were only constrained by the people they worked for.
And now I see why you would say
since they will always chose mommy's Jag over any American made car. I don't like them because they didn't like my first car, a '65 intermediate with a big block, or my second car a '66 intermediate with a big block, my '70 Challenger and the list goes on. I'm sure they wouldn't appreciate the more recent 1000 h.p. car we built, our first 650 h.p. 2k lb. Cobra kit car or the one we are building right now. In fact they would under rate nearly every car I have owned. Their reported numbers usually differ from our experience as well as the numbers reported by other top tier rags. Bottom tier or top tier is not relevant. What is relevant is factual information which is where they drop the ball.
HEY, wanna come over and help me clean up the T bucket for tomorrow's veterans day parade? I'll take you for a ride. It ain't no Jag but a blown small block on a 1600 lb. car will entertain you for a few seconds.
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This just isn't true.
But it is. Swallow your pride because mommy's car is just a few design cues away from the Fusion. Now I see where you are coming from. Not much experience and using open ended observations and predictions. Of course the cookie cutter shape of today is the opinion of older people. Younger people never knew anything but styling cue differences. Drastic differences to you is same-old, same-old to me.
You say
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Designers have always been constrained irregardless of CAFE.
is simply not true. Did you say "always"? CAFE hasn't "always" been either. Designers were only constrained by the people they worked for.
And now I see why you would say
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.. about Motor Trend being a bottom tier publication (which I don't think it is, anyway),
since they will always chose mommy's Jag over any American made car. I don't like them because they didn't like my first car, a '65 intermediate with a big block, or my second car a '66 intermediate with a big block, my '70 Challenger and the list goes on. I'm sure they wouldn't appreciate the more recent 1000 h.p. car we built, our first 650 h.p. 2k lb. Cobra kit car or the one we are building right now. In fact they would under rate nearly every car I have owned. Their reported numbers usually differ from our experience as well as the numbers reported by other top tier rags. Bottom tier or top tier is not relevant. What is relevant is factual information which is where they drop the ball.
HEY, wanna come over and help me clean up the T bucket for tomorrow's veterans day parade? I'll take you for a ride. It ain't no Jag but a blown small block on a 1600 lb. car will entertain you for a few seconds.
Posted on 11/8/14 at 11:56 pm to Redbone
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Drastic differences to you is same-old, same-old to me.
^I'm thinking this...
Apparently looks to you and looks to me have different meanings. You should have said the shape of cars is the similar...not looks. Cars do not all look the same. Anyone can tell a Camry apart from a Mercedes E class...or a Chrysler 200 from a VW Passat. That being said, would you have argued the same thing 40+ years ago? Because by your standards, a 1970 Impala is similar in shape to a 1970 Galaxie 500...and that was before CAFE was enacted...so what's the reasoning for that?
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Did you say "always"? CAFE hasn't "always" been either. Designers were only constrained by the people they worked for.
Yes, I said always...and you took it out of context. I didn't say it meaning CAFE has always been around...I know that it hasn't. Let's try to keep things in context.
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since they will always chose mommy's Jag over any American made car. I don't like them because they didn't like my first car, a '65 intermediate with a big block, or my second car a '66 intermediate with a big block, my '70 Challenger and the list goes on. I'm sure they wouldn't appreciate the more recent 1000 h.p. car we built, our first 650 h.p. 2k lb. Cobra kit car or the one we are building right now. In fact they would under rate nearly every car I have owned. Their reported numbers usually differ from our experience as well as the numbers reported by other top tier rags. Bottom tier or top tier is not relevant. What is relevant is factual information which is where they drop the ball.
I used my mom's car as an example because I personally drive a truck which is not pertinent to this discussion...but thanks for being a condescending prick about it.
Anyway, so you admit you don't like MT because they bad mouthed/didn't like a car you owned and thought was good? That's just being biased. I'm a mopar guy and they bad mouth plenty of mopar/chrysler products...but I still remain objective when reading any review of any other vehicle. The writers of MT, and all other publications, do that for a living...I won't let them make my mind up for me, but I won't say they are wrong because they said something I didn't like about a vehicle I own. That being said, it certainly explains why you get so butthurt when a stranger challenges your opinion on something and rather than just have a discussion you'd rather resort to being arrogant and condescending.
ETA: Oh and regarding this tidbit...
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since they will always chose mommy's Jag over any American made car
Motor Trend's Best Driver's Car of 2014 was the Camaro Z/28; and their 2014 Car of the Year was the Cadillac CTS.
This post was edited on 11/9/14 at 12:03 am
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