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I don't like the new playoff system
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:30 pm
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:30 pm
Either go back to the bcs or expand it to 16 teams with conference winners and then have at large teams. 4 teams is terrible
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:32 pm to risesandfires
What's to hate so far?
Season ain't over
Season ain't over
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:33 pm to risesandfires
quote:
Clemson fan
You're probably going to want something closer to 64 teams...
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:36 pm to risesandfires
BCS was fine
Should just use BCS rankings not a committee
Should just use BCS rankings not a committee
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:41 pm to risesandfires
quote:
expand it to 16 teams
Do you realize how many games that is including regular season and conference championships?
This post was edited on 11/4/14 at 9:42 pm
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:44 pm to risesandfires
Should be the top four BCS teams...or eight or whatever...but a closed door committee is too opaque and reeks of collusion. Also group decisions lend themselves to riskier choices because there's a displacement of responsibility.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:49 pm to risesandfires
The argument that there will always be a team left out is stupid because those teams would never have had a shot at the championship anyway. Playoff is the best solution and you will love it once you see it. It's gonna expand after the huge success it will be this year.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:50 pm to risesandfires
I think 8-team playoff would be best. Winner of each of the P5 + 3 at-large.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:54 pm to risesandfires
A playoff system that guarantees LSU is playing in it is what we all want
Posted on 11/4/14 at 11:14 pm to risesandfires
This system is the best we've had so far. It's finally based on who you beat and who you lose to. Not the classic "eye ball" test.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 11:25 pm to risesandfires
4 teams should be an improvement over a final 2 in the bcs for sure. I hope the committee remembers the reason for the BCS was to make sure the great matchups (e.g. PSU and Nebraska in 94) that didn't happen get to happen. That is, the system being altered should be an improvement to the regular season to allow for outstanding teams that wouldn't have been allowed a fair shot to show their excellence that opportunity.
This post was edited on 11/4/14 at 11:37 pm
Posted on 11/5/14 at 12:03 am to risesandfires
BCS with 2 is not enough
16 is way too many
The BCS system and 4 teams would have been the way to go.
16 is way too many
The BCS system and 4 teams would have been the way to go.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 12:21 am to risesandfires
The committee clearly doesn't know WTF it's doing.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 4:11 am to risesandfires
I,was always a big proponent of the BCS, but it was inherently flawed too. 2/3 of it was made up by humans, 1/2 of that--the coaches poll-- had infinitely more reason to be biased than the new committee. Besides the fact that none of them had time to watch all the other teams, because they were, you know, coaching their fricking own. Word was always that the assistant AD was filling out ballots anyway.
And the Harris voters were similar to the committee only less prestigious representatives with a much less transparent vote.
And even the computers--who,we all relied being the most objective and taking the human element out--did anything but. All those computers were totally different, based on subjective criteria that humans had deemed more or less important than other humans. Thats why you'd have some crazy 2'loss,team always inexplicably ranked higher than some undefeateds at certain points. One dude always had Pav 12 teams ranked higher based on their SOS because they played 9 conference games every year. So, even the computers had biases brought into their formulas by the biases that their creators had.
There is just absolutely no way to have an objective system with so many teams who play such different schedules. Human subjectivity will have to play a part. There's no way around it it. And I see no reason to shite on the committee before they frick up. I mean, Condelizza Rice is perhaps the most successful woman I the history of American politics. She is a serious lady who know doubt takes this--and every job she's ever had extremely seriously. But because she's a woman a you played high school football, you think you are somehow more qualified to make assessments on who is deserving of the playoff than her? Get fricking real. She is more qualified to do just about anything on this planet than 99.9999% of the tiny-dicked mysogynist trolls on this board
And the Harris voters were similar to the committee only less prestigious representatives with a much less transparent vote.
And even the computers--who,we all relied being the most objective and taking the human element out--did anything but. All those computers were totally different, based on subjective criteria that humans had deemed more or less important than other humans. Thats why you'd have some crazy 2'loss,team always inexplicably ranked higher than some undefeateds at certain points. One dude always had Pav 12 teams ranked higher based on their SOS because they played 9 conference games every year. So, even the computers had biases brought into their formulas by the biases that their creators had.
There is just absolutely no way to have an objective system with so many teams who play such different schedules. Human subjectivity will have to play a part. There's no way around it it. And I see no reason to shite on the committee before they frick up. I mean, Condelizza Rice is perhaps the most successful woman I the history of American politics. She is a serious lady who know doubt takes this--and every job she's ever had extremely seriously. But because she's a woman a you played high school football, you think you are somehow more qualified to make assessments on who is deserving of the playoff than her? Get fricking real. She is more qualified to do just about anything on this planet than 99.9999% of the tiny-dicked mysogynist trolls on this board
Posted on 11/5/14 at 7:10 am to risesandfires
First off, if u can't win your conference you don't deserve to play for the championship. If you are in a crappy conference and win it, oh well you don't deserve it either.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 7:14 am to risesandfires
At the end of the season, when has anyone ever complained that the 16th ranked team was better than #1?
Posted on 11/5/14 at 9:17 am to risesandfires
This playoff system is bullshite, not because of only four teams, but because of HUMAN BIAS.
I don't care how often that slimy bastard named Condi Rice pretends to be impartial. Human bias is inescapable.
A much better system would have been a FORMULA agreed upon by vote of AD's and head coaches... and then no changes or human input as the season progressed.
I don't care how often that slimy bastard named Condi Rice pretends to be impartial. Human bias is inescapable.
A much better system would have been a FORMULA agreed upon by vote of AD's and head coaches... and then no changes or human input as the season progressed.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 10:32 am to risesandfires
I liked the BCS. The playoff system is okay. I want to keep it at four teams, though.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 10:39 am to risesandfires
The biggest thing so far is the argument of a "worse loss" versus a "win". WUT?
For instance, in the LSU example, when LSU fans ask the question, "Why is Ole Miss ranked higher than LSU at this point?" The response is always "because LSU lost 41-7 vs. Auburn." Agree. It is a bad loss. But does a bad loss carry more weight than a Win? (LSU beat Ole Miss)
If you want to factor in losses, then LSU's losses are to 2 of the top 3. It's still early in the season so I really don't care about rankings right now, but if this were a discussion between the #4 and #5 teams in the country, I sure hope a win counts more than a bad loss.
For instance, in the LSU example, when LSU fans ask the question, "Why is Ole Miss ranked higher than LSU at this point?" The response is always "because LSU lost 41-7 vs. Auburn." Agree. It is a bad loss. But does a bad loss carry more weight than a Win? (LSU beat Ole Miss)
If you want to factor in losses, then LSU's losses are to 2 of the top 3. It's still early in the season so I really don't care about rankings right now, but if this were a discussion between the #4 and #5 teams in the country, I sure hope a win counts more than a bad loss.
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