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re: Louisiana town named most unequal town in the nation
Posted on 11/3/14 at 9:12 am to BugAC
Posted on 11/3/14 at 9:12 am to BugAC
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There is only inequality of results. Not inequality of opportunities.
I'm voting with you this week, but it's absolutely not true that there is "equality of opportunities" across the social scale. It doesn't make you a whiny liberal to admit reality.
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We have a 2 term black president and a potential woman presidential candidate
Which shows that America is not as racist as it once was, or at least that white America is not as racist as it once was. Doesn't say much about equality of opportunities. His "opportunities" were not exactly run of the mill.
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How about, provide for yourself and only worry about yourself and your family, and the rest will work itself out.
1. Decide to provide for myself and my family
2. ...
3. Profit
Just like that?
Among other things, you're ignoring generations of dependency in these communities that has destroyed their family structure and created a situation where no one has a need for good work and only exceptional people want it.
If you grew up white middle class and are average in any way, then you can go ahead and assume that if you had grown up black lower class (or white lower class, for that matter), you would be hanging out on a street corner right now or whatever else the average person from that group is doing.
I hold my nose and vote Republican because they are the least likely of the available candidates to continue the present, sick situation that fuels so many bad things, possibly the worst of which is the animosity between Americans that is so prevalent in these threads. I don't know how the sense of community is faring in other parts of the country, but it is dead or dying throughout the South. I believe in capitalism and the free market, too, as the best ways to reduce poverty and reward individuals who work hard, have good ideas, etc, but the free market won't save us as long we only preach while allowing the other side to claim all the empathy.
Specifically to the OP, it is plain laughable for a rich cotton farmer from Lake Providence to see the great great grandsons of cotton slaves wasting their lives away and feel zero empathy for them. To not feel any desire to help them. To see how they are today and not make the connection to where they came from.
/rant
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Posted on 11/3/14 at 9:43 am to uway
So you want the farmers to just give money to them or give them a job? Neither will happen. They don't want the job and the farmer isn't going to hand them 100k.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 9:55 am to uway
People in America have often followed job booms in industries including the oilfields, petrochemical plants, timber industries, mining industries, etc. Many of these positions require very little to no education and can produce six figure salaries for people willing to relocate and work hard. What makes the residents of Lake Providence, or other Delta towns, unable to seek out some of these positions? I don't like farm subsidies and the ridiculous system of government money to farmers at all but it is not the fault of the remaining farms that the descendants of former workers have no jobs left in their operations. I fail to see what is holding back a person living in a town such as Lake Providence from getting a bus fare to North Dakota, South Texas, or areas where work has been very strong for low education opportunities other than their own choices to remain in an area with weak economic options. The concept of people moving to bigger cities in search of jobs is not exactly new.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 10:17 am to uway
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Among other things, you're ignoring generations of dependency in these communities that has destroyed their family structure and created a situation where no one has a need for good work and only exceptional people want it. If you grew up white middle class and are average in any way, then you can go ahead and assume that if you had grown up black lower class (or white lower class, for that matter), you would be hanging out on a street corner right now or whatever else the average person from that group is doing. I hold my nose and vote Republican because they are the least likely of the available candidates to continue the present, sick situation that fuels so many bad things, possibly the worst of which is the animosity between Americans that is so prevalent in these threads. I don't know how the sense of community is faring in other parts of the country, but it is dead or dying throughout the South. I believe in capitalism and the free market, too, as the best ways to reduce poverty and reward individuals who work hard, have good ideas, etc, but the free market won't save us as long we only preach while allowing the other side to claim all the empathy. Specifically to the OP, it is plain laughable for a rich cotton farmer from Lake Providence to see the great great grandsons of cotton slaves wasting their lives away and feel zero empathy for them. To not feel any desire to help them. To see how they are today and not make the connection to where they came from.
Awesome post. This guy gets it.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 10:44 am to uway
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if you had grown up black lower class (or white lower class, for that matter), you would be hanging out on a street corner right now or whatever else the average person from that group is doing.
I grew up poor and I worked my butt off to be better off. No one gave me anything, I just outworked most people. I have plenty of freinds that grew up poor and they also have risen on the economic chain due to hard work and education. If you choose to stay in that cycle it is your own fault.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 11:02 am to uway
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it is plain laughable for a rich cotton farmer from Lake Providence to see the great great grandsons of cotton slaves wasting their lives away and feel zero empathy for them. To not feel any desire to help them. To see how they are today and not make the connection to where they came from.
To bitch about government dependency of the poors while accepting millions in crop subsidies, CRP/WRP and other forms of gubmint cheese. To complain about illegal immigration while paying mexicans substandard wages to do farm work.
They all built it themselves, boyee!
Posted on 11/3/14 at 12:41 pm to uway
Screw you buddy. My freakin grandma and grandpa picked cotton for half their lives and were dirt poor. My grandpa didn't own a pair of shoes until he was in high school or a jacket until he joined the military shortly there after. He was sick of being poor and wanted a better life for his family. So he sacked up an made something of himself and our family. I am in a position to succeed today because he made those sacrifices. Not because he had it handed to him. Are you saying that the rich people in my community should have sympathy on me because of what my grandparents went through? That's pathetic and your post makes me want to vomit.
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