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re: Taking in foreign Ebola patients...

Posted on 10/30/14 at 9:01 am to
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 10/30/14 at 9:01 am to
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National Security.


One must distort and stretch the meaning of the phrase "national security" to provide any coherence into your argument.

I submit that under no common or traditional understanding of the phrase "national security" does your argument have merit.

In fact, "INTER-national security" is a better phrase for you to use, because, the sovereign will of We the People of the USA is being subverted by this consideration of doing this.

The people of the USA would prefer that the assistance in battling this disease should be done on-site of the outbreak. We believe that the USA should not expose itself any more than absolutely necessary, so, do the treatment on-site over there.

I read the memo carefully and the "holding" of the memo that the USA "needs" to do something in order to try to persuade foreign doctors and nursed to travel to Liberia is totally conclusory and utterly without evidentiary support. It's not a legal document, nor is it in any way a legal argument establishing a "national security" reason to do this.

The Obama Administration seems to operate on the "ipse dixit" principle of legal authority -- i.e. If Obama says it, it must be so. Obama's minions are totally cool with this Dictatorial and Authoritarian Leftist method of governance.
This post was edited on 10/30/14 at 9:14 am
Posted by Vegas Bengal
Member since Feb 2008
26344 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 9:30 am to
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One must distort and stretch the meaning of the phrase "national security" to provide any coherence into your argument.


Actually I'm quoting Republicans. They're the ones who have said this.

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I read the memo carefully and the "holding" of the memo that the USA "needs" to do something in order to try to persuade foreign doctors and nursed to travel to Liberia is totally conclusory and utterly without evidentiary support. It's not a legal document, nor is it in any way a legal argument establishing a "national security" reason to do this.


I'm glad you read the memo, now read my post. I never said it was a legal memo nor did I say it was a judicial case thus can have no holding.

However, just as Republicans have said that quarantine is a matter of national security because the health of our citizens are at issue, for those of us intelligent enough to think past our noses and do not operate out of fear and emotion, the idea that we should close off our country from people of west Africa and should not send troops to build hospitals and not do as much as possible to help charity organizations get to West Africa and stem the tide of this epidemic is about as stupid as it gets.

Today it's 10,000 in Africa with this disease. One day that was the number of people infected with HIV there. Then it was 100,000. Then it was in the millions. By that time, 1987, Reagan got off his arse and actually mentioned the disease for the first time. By then 7500 Americans were dead.

Both Republicans and Democrats have said this is a matter of national security. The difference is Republicans (and some Democrats) are too stupid to understand that if you don't contain Ebola today in West Africa, in three years you'll wake up like Reagan did in 1987.
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