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re: Pope Francis endorses evolution and big bang

Posted on 10/29/14 at 8:51 pm to
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 8:51 pm to
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"The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us, with the Blood of Christ: all of us, not just Catholics. Everyone! 'Father, the atheists?' Even the atheists. Everyone! And this Blood makes us children of God of the first class. We are created children in the likeness of God and the Blood of Christ has redeemed us all."



1) Explain to me how this goes against the Church's teaching concerning salvation outside of the Church. Christ's death and resurrection redeemed us all. Everyone knows this. It's what we do with that redemption Christ gave to each one of us, however, that counts.

2) Pope Francis said last year this exact quote: "Outside the Church there can be no salvation."

Once again, doctrine never changes.
This post was edited on 10/29/14 at 8:58 pm
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58194 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 8:58 pm to
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And besides, Francis said last year, and I quote, "Outside the Church there can be no salvation."



And atheists who are definitely outside the church and don't believe in Jesus' saving grace should be outside of salvation by the above statement. Yet Pope Francis said they could still be redeemed anyway. This is complete and utter contradiction.
And if he simply meant they could still be redeemed if they joined the church and embraced their doctrine he should have said so. He implied they could be redeemed apart from that and anyone who isn't steeped in Catholic magic would read in the same thing.
This post was edited on 10/29/14 at 9:02 pm
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