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re: Pope Francis endorses evolution and big bang
Posted on 10/29/14 at 7:43 pm to RollTide1987
Posted on 10/29/14 at 7:43 pm to RollTide1987
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Doctrine has never changed. That's why it's called doctrine. Once that doctrine was put into place it remained the same all the way to the present day.
Catholic Church doctrine insist that no one is saved outside of the Catholic Church, so how does one jive this with the latest statements from the Pope that even atheists will be saved?
Pope Francis:
"The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us, with the Blood of Christ: all of us, not just Catholics. Everyone! 'Father, the atheists?' Even the atheists. Everyone! And this Blood makes us children of God of the first class. We are created children in the likeness of God and the Blood of Christ has redeemed us all."
"Outside the Church nobody will be saved. (Extra ecclesiam nemo salvatur)" (Origen, In Jesu Nave hom. 3,5)
"Outside the Church there is no salvation, thus membership in the Church is necessary." (Adam S. Miller, The Final Word, Tower of David Publications:Gaithersburg (1997), p. 16)
"Whoever wishes to be saved, needs above all to hold the Catholic faith; unless each one preserves this whole and entire, he will without a doubt perish in eternity. . . This is the Catholic faith' unless everyone believes this faithfully and firmly, he cannot be saved." (Denzinger 39, 30)
This post was edited on 10/29/14 at 7:55 pm
Posted on 10/29/14 at 8:51 pm to Revelator
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"The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us, with the Blood of Christ: all of us, not just Catholics. Everyone! 'Father, the atheists?' Even the atheists. Everyone! And this Blood makes us children of God of the first class. We are created children in the likeness of God and the Blood of Christ has redeemed us all."
1) Explain to me how this goes against the Church's teaching concerning salvation outside of the Church. Christ's death and resurrection redeemed us all. Everyone knows this. It's what we do with that redemption Christ gave to each one of us, however, that counts.
2) Pope Francis said last year this exact quote: "Outside the Church there can be no salvation."
Once again, doctrine never changes.
This post was edited on 10/29/14 at 8:58 pm
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