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re: This is why business owners/entrepreneurs do not like democrats very much

Posted on 10/27/14 at 1:24 pm to
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 10/27/14 at 1:24 pm to
So resident liberals/progressives/democrats. Do you always think in such simple minded terms? Hillary and Obama have now stated the core belief of the left, that businesses and corporations do not create jobs.

The belief is that either the government or the consumer creates jobs. But neither can exist without businesses.

Business operate on a profit. In order to make a profit they must create and sell a product. And for that to happen, they must hire employees to run the day to day operations and create said product. In turn the consumer must have money. The only way consumers have money is by working jobs and earning money. Ergo, businesses create jobs that supplies the worker with money.

Then there is the idiot government argument. That only government creates jobs. Well, the jobs "created" by government are paid for by taxpayer money. Taxes come from individuals that earn money. Ergo, taxpayers employed by businesses earn money from the business and are then taxed by the government.

Now i'm sure an idiot will say, "government workers pay taxes too". Which is true. But the money being taxed by the government is supplied by private industry taxpayers. So a government worker being taxed by the government does not contribute a net positive. That government job is simply a place holder job and contributes nothing to the GDP of the country since all of that government employees pay is coming directly from taxpayers.

I'm sure the idiots on the left know this, but refuse to discuss anything deeper than the meme's fed to them by their government slave masters. But then again, liberalism is a mental disease.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 10/27/14 at 1:36 pm to
While I would tend to agree with HRC on this assessment, demand is the ultimate driver for hiring - like everything else in economics, its a pretty complicated situation.

If I were to start a business and I had no one that wanted product/service, I would probably be SOL and not create any jobs. Only with demand could I succeed with that business. And for many things, that demand already exists.

But sometimes businesses can create demand for products or service. Apple has done a great job of this but there are a ton of other examples. For instance voodoo donuts. I never knew I need a donut covered in crushed up oreos and PB until I had one. Also true for burrito joints - did you know you needed chipolte until you had it? Likely you didn't.

So while HRC is right that demand creates jobs, its just not that simple. Sometimes ideas/businesses also create jobs.
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