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Is it time?
Posted on 10/24/14 at 10:48 am
Posted on 10/24/14 at 10:48 am
The attack in Ottawa should be a giant sign to people that radical Islam is here. We're lucky that they are neither trained nor organized, but as the population of Islam itself grows here in the West, so also does the population of those Muslims that are or will become radicalized.
Without the mainstream Western Muslims taking a very firm stand (seeking out then outing the radicals in their midst, marching/protesting against the actions and words of the radicals, etc), this issue will not be going away.
To quote an old saying, "all that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing".
Our PC culture (as reflected by the reluctance of news reports to publish Islamic ties when these events happen) is the prefect breeding ground because we don't want to offend anyone by painting with too broad a brush and guerrilla groups like these thrive in such an environment. One day our forbearance in this will cease to be a virtue and become a noose.
So when will it be time to call for Muslim groups to better police themselves (or risk pushing the government to police them better)? Will it be another beheading? A couple more shootings? Maybe a firebomb in a Starbucks?
Or will we wait until enough of the radicals become trained and organized enough to pull off multiple and ongoing acts of real terror?
Without the mainstream Western Muslims taking a very firm stand (seeking out then outing the radicals in their midst, marching/protesting against the actions and words of the radicals, etc), this issue will not be going away.
To quote an old saying, "all that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing".
Our PC culture (as reflected by the reluctance of news reports to publish Islamic ties when these events happen) is the prefect breeding ground because we don't want to offend anyone by painting with too broad a brush and guerrilla groups like these thrive in such an environment. One day our forbearance in this will cease to be a virtue and become a noose.
So when will it be time to call for Muslim groups to better police themselves (or risk pushing the government to police them better)? Will it be another beheading? A couple more shootings? Maybe a firebomb in a Starbucks?
Or will we wait until enough of the radicals become trained and organized enough to pull off multiple and ongoing acts of real terror?
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Posted on 10/24/14 at 10:51 am to Bard
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Without the mainstream Western Muslims taking a very firm stand
here's your problem right there
the fact is that most muslims, in general, do agree with the practice of sharia law; so they essentially won't denounce it, even in its most severe translation
This post was edited on 10/24/14 at 10:54 am
Posted on 10/24/14 at 10:51 am to Bard
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So when will it be time to call for Muslim groups to better police themselves
This has been called for for decades if memory serves me.
Them doing it is another thing.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 10:52 am to Bard
Workplace violence
Grassroots jihadis, "inspired" by ISIS.
Not working in concert
= not terrorism.
There is no way these attacks, no matter how numerous or deadly are going to be categorized by the powers-that-be as "terrorist acts" - because, then they'll have to do something.
Grassroots jihadis, "inspired" by ISIS.
Not working in concert
= not terrorism.
There is no way these attacks, no matter how numerous or deadly are going to be categorized by the powers-that-be as "terrorist acts" - because, then they'll have to do something.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 10:52 am to Bard
The way mainstream Western Muslims treat radicals reminds me of those parents you see on those intervention shows, who have a drug addicted kid and denounce what they do, but at the same time when push comes to shove continues to enable the behavior by letting them live with them rent free and all that, because "I love him too much to just throw him out on the street"
These mainstream Western Muslims are the same way. They can denounce what they do all they want with their mouths, but they need to back it up with action, which they don't do. I am guessing it's because deep down, they agree with the basic principles of the radical movement.
These mainstream Western Muslims are the same way. They can denounce what they do all they want with their mouths, but they need to back it up with action, which they don't do. I am guessing it's because deep down, they agree with the basic principles of the radical movement.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 10:52 am to Bard
Our focus needs to be on gay marraige and equal pay for women.
Radical Islam can wait
Radical Islam can wait
Posted on 10/24/14 at 10:53 am to Bard
I started a thread a while back about at what point we would essentially have to implement a McCarthy-style black list.
Sadly, eventually there may be no other option, because they ALL believe that the sword is a righteous way to deal with a 'nonbeliever'
Sadly, eventually there may be no other option, because they ALL believe that the sword is a righteous way to deal with a 'nonbeliever'
Posted on 10/24/14 at 10:54 am to Bard
I don't really know what your proposal is. Muslim groups, some of them, do condemn violence. I think entities like CAIR are enablers if not outright connected to terrorism, but it's also not surprising that groups who really don't see themselves as connected to terroristic entities don't want to be responsible for something they're not involved in.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 10:55 am to Bard
The Crusades were, in reality, a counterstrike.
Islam has always been spread by the sword.
Islam has always been spread by the sword.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 11:02 am to Bard
The passive response by the general Muslim Population and the media will only make the possibility of something much worse from the extremes of the other side. As the ranks grow and tensions rise we are setting ourselves up for return of complete intolerance and the inevitable consequences.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 11:17 am to Bard
It's time that the Government stopped bending to the whims of any and all religions.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 11:23 am to Bard
Workplace Violence.
As long as the Left controls the narrative, it will be tough to analyze anything truthfully and accurately, because they politicize everything. When the Left politicizes, it distorts, obfuscates and deceives.
Get rid of the Leftist influence on our Government and culture and we can find the Truth. Truth will evade us as long as Leftists are in control of the narrative.
As long as the Left controls the narrative, it will be tough to analyze anything truthfully and accurately, because they politicize everything. When the Left politicizes, it distorts, obfuscates and deceives.
Get rid of the Leftist influence on our Government and culture and we can find the Truth. Truth will evade us as long as Leftists are in control of the narrative.
This post was edited on 10/24/14 at 11:29 am
Posted on 10/24/14 at 11:34 am to Bard
quote:It's time for a dumbed-down narcissistic America to wake the frick up and realize what it is passively enabling its own government to do not only to itself but to the rest of the world.
Is it time?
Posted on 10/24/14 at 11:46 am to Bard
Make islam illegal and deport all muslims.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 11:51 am to Bard
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guerrilla groups like these thrive in such an environment.
Give me some evidence of guerrilla groups thriving in free societies.
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So when will it be time to call for Muslim groups to better police themselves (or risk pushing the government to police them better)?
What are you even trying to say? What do you want to happen?
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