re: Virginia Tech loses at home to Miami 30-6, who beat Ohio State by 14 in the Shoe

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obviously not what me meant

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what you meant?

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obviously not what me meant. I hate the transitive property but I may make an exception here.

OSU doesn't belong anywhere in the discussion. I'm sure they'll lose again though.

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The reason they are in the discussion is not because of who they have beaten so far. It is because they have a game against Michigan State. The winner of that will probably have 1 loss and a very quality win. They will also have a conference championship game and will be big favorites in all of their remaining games.

Nobody is claiming Ohio State belongs in a hypothetical discussion of a playoff starting today. People need to realize that the discussion of "who has a good chance to be in top 4 on December 20th?" is not the same as "who deserves to play in it based on their work so far?"

Mississippi State, for example, obviously deserves it more right now. However, they have a more difficult schedule and a weaker team to get through it. People can argue that all they want, but the fact of the matter is only a few teams would be favored over Ohio State on a neutral field. I'll trust Vegas over blowhards who act like all teams outside of the SEC recruit Junior Varsity players.

They are in the discussion because of the relatively high percentage chance they have of finishing 12-1 as Big 10 champions and a victory over a top 10-15 Michigan State team. Not because they are 5-1 right now. The season is half-way over, with most of the cup cake games out of the way. What kind of capabilities a team has for winning is as much or more important than what a team has already stamped on their resume.

They probably will lose again. But they are one of the few teams that probably control their own destiny and have at least a 20% chance or so chance of winning out. If that doesn't get someone in the discussion, then the discussion is not broad enough for my liking.