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re: 2016 GOP nominee could get a third or more of AA vote

Posted on 10/18/14 at 5:45 am to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124167 posts
Posted on 10/18/14 at 5:45 am to
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Black folks left the GOP because the party changed, and decided that it no longer was interested in Black votes
Blame it on whomever. Attribute it to whatever. It matters not. The point is the result. Are "the 90%" better off for their votes? Why or why not?
I'd be honestly interested in your answer tf.

You make the assumption politicians have to "woo voters". That maybe truein today's world. I hate the divisive BS that politics has become. Nonetheless, it is what it is.

The question then, for a 12% minority, is which voters are "wooed" and to what end. If the premise is divide-and-conquer by peeling off constituencies, why would the GOP go after one so small and so entrenched, as compared to lower hanging fruit, i.e., ""the women's vote" or ""Hispanics"".

Again, I am happy as a lark Rand is discussing his policies in speeches to predominantly Black audiences. I am happy he is presenting his policies in speeches to liberal audiences at Berkeley and elsewhere. He offers both a way out, and a way up. He offers not just hope for change, but a method to get there.

In the end though, it is for the voters to decide who best represents a chance for them to improve, a chance for them to flourish, a chance for them to look back and say "Wow, see what I've done. I've done what I would have never thought possible. I built that! I did it!" A vote for more-of-the-same will get exactly what it deserves.

Let's look at it differently.
Hypothetically, what if, regardless of the GOP candidate, "the 90%" voted predominantly GOP in 2016 under the premise of real hope and real change. Assuming the GOP won, what do you suspect resulting influence of "the 90%" over policy might be? What kind of real, true, actual, sincere, and (most importantly) productive attention do you think the Dems might pay that same 90% in subsequent elections? IMO, that is how a constituency exercises power.

Again, it's a two-way street. If Rand spends a bunch of time and effort proposing ideas which would be far better than current policy for a traditional Democrat constituency, and that constituency shrugs him off in GOP primaries or the General Election, the damage it sustains is likely FAR WORSE than that anything the GOP sustains.

The GOP can win in other ways. However, "the 90%" cannot! "The 90%" will lose 100% of the time if it continues to fall in line for more-of-the-same.
Just the way it is.

This post was edited on 10/18/14 at 5:49 am
Posted by RTRinTampa
Central FL
Member since Jan 2013
5532 posts
Posted on 10/18/14 at 7:53 am to
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Are "the 90%" better off for their votes? Why or why not?


You bring up a great point. Democrats take the black vote for granted and their lot in life has decreased under Obama according to every objective measurement.
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