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re: Gwyneth Paltow to hold Obama fundraiser at her house - gets mocked by posters

Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:50 am to
Posted by BBONDS25
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Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:50 am to
The problem is the taxpayers think of their money as their own money....Amirite?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:51 am to
but i'm talking about ones used to end the conversation...the meme is that there is no response

after a crisis you'll get it with the patriot-like words, but that's a specialized scenario

job creator is a generic word, and wehn it references private parties is for those on the "right", but it won't shut down a conversation

using a term like "right wing" now is used to completely discredit the person where a response is beneath us all. liberals on here won't even call themselves liberals, to shut down any conversation on their policy beliefs
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:52 am to
quote:

oh there are a ton.
-experts say
-some think/say
-detractors argue

Anytime you see these words in an article, what follows is merely the opinion of the writer.
Posted by Pilot Tiger
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Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:53 am to
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but i'm talking about ones used to end the conversation...the meme is that there is no response
are you saying that the right doesn't use magic words to discredit/end conversations with liberals?


Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:55 am to
i'm willing to see a list

like i said, the patriotism stuff is used after crises pretty effectively
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:56 am to
facts

liberals love promoting how much they use facts

facts that go against their point? will be from a biased source somehow

end of argument
Posted by Pilot Tiger
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Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:56 am to
a liberal using the term "right-wing" to discredit a conservative is like a conservative using "far left"

or using the term socialism when it doesn't apply. Many of the low information conservative voters don't even know what socialism means.
Posted by olddawg26
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Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:58 am to
And why cant you buy her for what she's worth?
Posted by KCT
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Posted on 10/9/14 at 8:03 am to
Two-part question:

(1) What's the right-wing (conservative) equivalent of terms like Islamophobia, homophobia, racist, etc. Certainly these terms are used ALL THE TIME to marginalize conservatives, even when conservatives dont say anything to warrant such descriptions?

(2) Even if there are, generally speaking, conservative equivalents to the terms I mentioned above, what about the frequency of usage of said terms?

Oh, I'll throw in one more:

(3) Is there a Saul Alinsky of the Right, who encouraged conservatives to shut down discussions by simply using "magic words" in order to avoid any actual discussion?

I'll be interested to see the responses, if there even are any.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
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Posted on 10/9/14 at 8:18 am to
"Mean-spirited" is another
Posted by Jagd Tiger
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Posted on 10/9/14 at 8:18 am to
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Whatever else Bush was, he wasn't anti-America.


Bush was "BIG-GOV" all the way, some consider that to be anti-American.

Posted by Pilot Tiger
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Posted on 10/9/14 at 8:22 am to
1. dunno, dont care?

2. dont care

3. dont know/care



my entire point was that each side uses buzzwords. it's part of the game
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/9/14 at 8:23 am to
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"Mean-spirited" is another

#cosen
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/9/14 at 8:25 am to
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each side uses buzzwords

i'm not denying that, but only liberals get to use buzzwords to shut down the entire conversation

like i said...liberals on this very board won't even respond to generic questions about being liberal, b/c they deny the use of the term

and the right has no buzzwords like racist. nothing shuts down a discussion faster than being scared of being called a racist
Posted by FlagLake
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Posted on 10/9/14 at 8:28 am to
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Posted by olddawg26 And why cant you buy her for what she's worth?


13th Amendment
Posted by Pilot Tiger
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Posted on 10/9/14 at 8:29 am to
I mean, yeaaaaa I get what you're saying

but, to me, the people who do that are just dumb

to me, they are the vegan Snow lady. I dont think about them when I think of someone being a liberal

maybe my friends who identify as liberal really aren't liberal
Posted by KCT
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Posted on 10/9/14 at 8:30 am to
Very impressive, Pilot Tiger

Deflect, avoid, ignore, dismiss.......

Posted by Pilot Tiger
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Posted on 10/9/14 at 8:32 am to
I'm not a liberal, I can't speak for them
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/9/14 at 8:38 am to
that's fair

the problem is, and to bring this all back, using terms like "right wing" do not allow those on the other side to have that nuance

a "right wing" designation destroys your credibility

it's an effective marketing/psychology thing (aided by the media), but it's bullshite. i just try to call it out when i see it
Posted by Pilot Tiger
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Posted on 10/9/14 at 8:40 am to
ad hominems have no place in discussions regardless of the side

it's what gets annoying about this board

someone posts link about something Obama says

first 5 responses:

derrr ODUMMY STRIKES AGAIN, GOLFER IN CHIEF JUST NEEDS TO LOWER HIS HANDICAP

i mean, doesn't that get annoying?
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