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Isn't This a Spread Formation?

Posted on 10/8/14 at 1:29 am
Posted by DVinBR
Member since Jan 2013
13037 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 1:29 am


this play was a designed quarterback draw and BH got about 5 yards on it

it seems like we line up like this a lot except we hardly ever throw off it
This post was edited on 10/8/14 at 1:51 am
Posted by Brendoni
Oklahoma City, Ok
Member since Apr 2009
21286 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 1:31 am to
it is, and imo, that's the way they should line up, 99.9% of the time. it doesn't make sense, for Brandon harris to take snaps under center, imo.
This post was edited on 10/8/14 at 1:32 am
Posted by StormTiger
Norwich, England, but from TX
Member since Dec 2003
4892 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 1:59 am to
just seeing this picture makes me really wish we'd do it more. LF7 has shown some good vision and cutback ability, so I feel like we could run out of it quite effectively, not to mention the short passes to people like Quinn.
This post was edited on 10/8/14 at 2:00 am
Posted by LSUzealot
Napoleon and Magazine
Member since Sep 2003
57656 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 4:08 am to
Fake the handoff and the linebackers can't cover the slot man. It's man on man up top and 100% chance someone is open if the routes are run correctly.
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38259 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 7:52 am to
And usually it's always a numbers game. THere's 6 in the box against your 5 lineman and RB. Why in the world wouldn't you throw a quick screen to Quinn right there out in space?
Posted by dos crystal
Georgia
Member since Aug 2008
4720 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 8:42 am to
quote:

this play was a designed quarterback draw and BH got about 5 yards on it it seems like we line up like this a lot except we hardly ever throw off it


Have you not watched our qb's throw? One throws over the wr's head (3 complete balls out of 15 tries) another skips balls into the grownd and completes less than 50%.

I'm curious why people think we should throw more when we struggle to complete A pass.

I boils down to, it's not the coaching. the plays are being called. these kids aren't able to make the play at this point in their career.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56690 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 8:46 am to
The 3 WR set with 1 TE shotgun formation should be our base set.

You can run any play from that formation and it forces teams to respect the pass.

We should run the 4 WR set you see above from time to time as well, but I don't think we'd be best running from that formation the majority of the time.
Posted by LSUPHILLY72
Member since Aug 2010
5356 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 8:53 am to
Posted by wish i was tebow
The Golf Board
Member since Feb 2009
46122 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 9:02 am to
In this picture I believe you have to attack the safety over the slot. I dont believe that they should have dickson tho. Diarse should be in that position.

Odds are you are going to get a favorable read in this look.

Im all for running the ball out of this formation Im just saying this is a good look for an offense in that formation. If that LB drops into a coverage then you should have a short route available. If he goes out in a flat coverage you have a 1 on 1 match up that should be in your favor. There are many more but that is the most basic read for a young QB on the road. gets him into a groove and a feel for the game.
Posted by Tigerik
Franklin, TN
Member since Mar 2007
1650 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 9:11 am to
For years Bama & LSU dominated the SEC West running a pro style offense and having stout "NFL size" and like defenses. These spread - no huddle "hurry up" offenses like Gus Malzahn's were designed specifically to compete with teams when they have better talent and size than you do.

This formation does narrow the gap between the teams and it only takes one guy to miss an assignment or tackle for a very big play.

I watched the AU game again and what's missing is one on one tackles being missed this year versus made last year. Everybody has to perform at 100% for a defense to stop this offensive attack.

I say mold the offense to the players we have now, not what we "want" to run. Cam Cameron's strengths were supposed to be matching offense to talent, but I'm still waiting to see it.

For example, where are the throws to TE's, or backs out of the backfield a la' Ray Rice. LF would dominate in the open field, but we don't get him there. That guy has great hands and speed.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68930 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 9:33 am to
Contrary to the belief on here, we don't just run power I. Now if we can just get some better accuracy from the qbs we could really move the chains, but in all honesty, there is no hope for the defense. So it doesn't really matter.
Posted by kmh5star
Member since Jul 2014
209 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 9:36 am to
It is. What quarter was that? fourth or fifth.
Posted by bdnc
Member since Dec 2011
939 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 9:50 am to
Proof that the problem is not the lack of running a spread but that the problem is much deeper ... 0/13 on 3rd downs 1/5 on 4th downs? there a serious problem with this coach
Posted by KJA
Dallas
Member since Apr 2011
258 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 10:40 am to
Both I and Spread formations can work with our personnel, the play calling just needs to take advantage of where the numbers are.

With the way teams have been stacking the box, when we're in the I, the other team's corners are on an island with Dural and Dupre, giving us an opportunity for quick in breaking routes as well as deep vertical routes. The problem is we've continued to run into unfavorable fronts and been predictable between run/pass on all 3 downs.

If our passing game can link up out of the I, teams will spread their linebackers and safeties and the running lanes will become available.

Conversely, if we run effectively out of the spread, teams will tighten up and we will again have numbers on the outside with our talented receivers.

When I played I thought it was easier to play pass defense against the spread because you were isolated less and could play more "team" defense.

Both formations can work, they just need to be used strategically to create balance.
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