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Why is the US scared to charge the Oklahoma beheader with terrorism?

Posted on 10/1/14 at 7:40 am
Posted by The Mick
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Posted on 10/1/14 at 7:40 am
He said he did it due to Islamic beliefs and learned from watching ISIS videos. He and his mom had terrorist pictures on their facebook (pics of twin towers, Bin Laden, ISIS, etc) and other shite on their pc's. He confessed to the crime and said he did it because of USA bombing in Syria/Iraq. Yet the FBI says they found "no indication that Alton Alexander Nolen was copying the beheadings of journalists in Syria by the Islamic State ... adding that they are treating this as an incident of workplace violence."

He also posted this on his FB:
"This do we find the clear precedent that explains the particular penchant of Islamic terrorists to behead their victims, it is merely another precedent bestowed by their Prophet." He also added a citation from the Quran: "I will instill terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers; smite ye about their necks." "Smite" means a heavy blow or stroke with a weapon. The terrorist who killed Colleen Hufford "smote" her neck when he cut it, reportedly with the same knife he used to slice produce when he worked at Vaughan Foods.
Posted by White Shadeaux
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Member since Jan 2006
24114 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 7:41 am to
Don't want to upset the filthy muslims.

Rather, let's just be murdered by them, one by one.
Posted by CaptainsWafer
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Posted on 10/1/14 at 7:42 am to
Because he benches 500+.
Posted by Rickety Cricket
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Posted on 10/1/14 at 7:42 am to
He's being charged with murder and will face the death penalty. What difference does it make?
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
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Posted on 10/1/14 at 7:42 am to
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40214 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 7:43 am to
quote:

Why is the US scared to charge the Oklahoma beheader with terrorism?


Obama wants to claim that he won the War on Terrorism, so if you don't call it terrorism it is not terrorism. It is workplace violence.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126990 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 7:45 am to
quote:

scared
You answered your own question.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/1/14 at 7:46 am to
Political correctness has paralyzed sensible thinking in this country. We seem to have no clue of the danger radical islam is to the world.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58307 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 7:49 am to
Because Obama dammit!!

Lets throw in a hate crime charge too. That will make him more deader when he's dead.
Posted by Brendoni
Oklahoma City, Ok
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 10/1/14 at 7:54 am to
quote:

He said he did it due to Islamic beliefs and learned from watching ISIS videos


but he wasn't told to perform the act, by an ISIS member, which means, he did it on his own terms, and not under the direction, of a terrorist group.
This post was edited on 10/1/14 at 7:57 am
Posted by TigerGman
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Posted on 10/1/14 at 7:57 am to
What's the legal criminal definition of terrorism?
Posted by meaux5
New York, NY
Member since Sep 2010
11012 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 7:58 am to
Political correctness bullshite
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 7:59 am to
We have a major election coming up.

/thread

Posted by Layabout
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2011
11082 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 8:06 am to
quote:

Why is the US scared to charge the Oklahoma beheader with terrorism?


What statute would that be? Would it be a federal crime or a state crime? I think you might find it right next to hate crime. Murder is the appropriate crime to prosecute.
Posted by DByrd2
Fredericksburg, VA
Member since Jun 2008
8964 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 8:29 am to
Same reason the government decided to start the "Loose lips sink ships" campaign in WWII when German subs were sinking ships off of our eastern coast. They wanted to keep people quiet and not let them get too rambunctious about our nation coming under attack.

It is propaganda to hide a rising issue that could stir up the only thing that can tear our government back down to its foundation: the people.

If you don't call it terrorism, it doesn't exist. The good ole "if I ignore it, it isn't there" tactic. That only works for so long if the problem continues to arise...
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 9:11 am to
Hate crime, terrorism or whatever else you want to call it, makes no difference, because at the end of the day, it's still murder. Why should we waste time trying to figure out why someone murdered if they're going to get the death penalty anyway. It reminds me of the silly attack ad on W for not signing a hate crime bill into law when he was governor of Texas, featuring James Byrd's daughter saying that because of W, her "father was killed all over again", despite the fact that Byrd's murderers received the death penalty. The #1 objective is ultumately the death penalty, not which obscure law was used to get a conviction.
Posted by Vegas Bengal
Member since Feb 2008
26344 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 9:54 am to
Why are conservatives so averse to calling anything a hate crime yet love calling crime terrorism? If murder is murder, regardless of intent, then murder is murder.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54753 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 10:16 am to
What is the charge of "terrorism"? He's being charged with the crime of murder because he murdered someone.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
68478 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 1:11 pm to
We should do away with thought crime altogether.

This should only go to motive as part of the proof. Hate should not be a crime in an of itself.
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