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Spinoff of White Guilt Thread- What happened to Black Wall Street?
Posted on 9/30/14 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 9/30/14 at 12:07 pm
A black friend of mine posted this on FB last week. I have NEVER heard of this event in American History.
If this is accurate, WTMF is/was wrong with white people? This was 1921 not 1821. Kinda shocking. I know how I feel about it and I'm actually quite ashamed of white folks for this here tragedy.
Wiki Page to Greenwood, Tulsa, Oklahoma
If this is accurate, WTMF is/was wrong with white people? This was 1921 not 1821. Kinda shocking. I know how I feel about it and I'm actually quite ashamed of white folks for this here tragedy.
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Troops were eventually deployed on the afternoon of June 1, but by that time there was not much left of the once thriving Greenwood district. Over 600 successful businesses were lost. Among these were 21 churches, 21 restaurants, 30 grocery stores and two movie theaters, plus a hospital, a bank, a post office, libraries, schools, law offices, a half-dozen private airplanes and even a bus system. Note—It was a time when the entire state of Oklahoma had only two airports, yet six blacks owned their own planes.
Wiki Page to Greenwood, Tulsa, Oklahoma
This post was edited on 9/30/14 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 9/30/14 at 12:08 pm to mikelbr
You really didn't know about that?
Posted on 9/30/14 at 12:10 pm to mikelbr
I feel no guilt about it. Why should I? Just because I'm white? wtf. That's the most ridiculous thing ever invented.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 12:14 pm to mikelbr
quote:
This was 1921 not 1821. Kinda shocking.
Why is this shocking? Blacks were still enslaved in 1821. This wouldn't even have existed back then.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 12:15 pm to mikelbr
But to answer your question, it was destroyed in the Tulsa Race Riots of 1821.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 12:17 pm to mikelbr
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The riot began because of the alleged assault of a white elevator operator, 17-year old Sarah Page, by an African American shoeshiner, 19-year old Dick Rowland (the case against Mr. Rowland was eventually dismissed)
I would have loved to be part of that riot at that time if this is true.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 12:20 pm to mikelbr
quote:you can only diversify yo bonds so much
What happened to Black Wall Street?
Posted on 9/30/14 at 12:26 pm to mikelbr
This was discussed in the last year around here. Horrible shite and of course most students never heard about this or many shitty things in our history.
There was some other "sides" to the story that thers had pointed out in this issue, but I have no reason to believe the criminal justice system at that time would have done anything in favor of a black man in just about any situation.
With that said, I feel no white guilt what-so-ever. Both my grandparents were dirt arse poor and probably came from some kind of indentured servent bullshite.
Seriously, our countrymen have done some damn shitty stuff, but we are still a far better place than 90% of the rest of the world.
There was some other "sides" to the story that thers had pointed out in this issue, but I have no reason to believe the criminal justice system at that time would have done anything in favor of a black man in just about any situation.
With that said, I feel no white guilt what-so-ever. Both my grandparents were dirt arse poor and probably came from some kind of indentured servent bullshite.
Seriously, our countrymen have done some damn shitty stuff, but we are still a far better place than 90% of the rest of the world.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 12:32 pm to mikelbr
quote:
What happened to Black Wall Street?
Layaway is an inefficient market.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 12:33 pm to mikelbr
Scruffy doesn't feel guilty about it.
He is angry at the British for kicking his people out of Nova Scotia.
Scruffy hopes you all have British Guilt.
He is angry at the British for kicking his people out of Nova Scotia.
Scruffy hopes you all have British Guilt.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 12:33 pm to mikelbr
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A black friend of mine
same one that you let have gay sex on your leather sofa?
Posted on 9/30/14 at 12:49 pm to mikelbr
Yeah, I learned about this a few years ago. Horrible. Absolutely horrible.
Do I feel personally guilty? No. Why would I?
But, do I recognize that there was systemic injustice and oppression here that affected a lot of people for a long time? Yes. That much is obvious.
Do I feel personally guilty? No. Why would I?
But, do I recognize that there was systemic injustice and oppression here that affected a lot of people for a long time? Yes. That much is obvious.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 1:23 pm to mikelbr
I was obviously not there, and while I can't argue that the narrative is ultimately wrong in the article, that is very much an article written with a certain point of view
This post was edited on 9/30/14 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 9/30/14 at 1:59 pm to mikelbr
Quit getting your damn history from Wiki. There is a lawsuit attached to the events that tell the whole story. A white man who owned businesses in the black part of town sued his insurance co. for damages. His claims were denied.
Facts entered into evidence were as follows
1) black guy was roaming in downtown on a holiday, when he claimed to have been working
2) white elevator operated claimed to have been attacked
3) black guy arrested, reports of whites gathering to lynch him
4) black ministers met with sheriff and he told them about posting guards, deactivating elevators, etc, etc
5) ministers returned to their side of town to report, and were called liars
6) blacks began amassing with weapons to go free the inmate from jail
7) whites began amassing with weapons once the blacks road through the white part of town armed to the teeth
8) whites gathered at the railroad tracks to keep the blacks from returning, when . . .
9) a sniper from the black part of town killed a white man on the opposite side of the treacks
THEN ALL HELL BROKE LOOSE
Facts entered into evidence were as follows
1) black guy was roaming in downtown on a holiday, when he claimed to have been working
2) white elevator operated claimed to have been attacked
3) black guy arrested, reports of whites gathering to lynch him
4) black ministers met with sheriff and he told them about posting guards, deactivating elevators, etc, etc
5) ministers returned to their side of town to report, and were called liars
6) blacks began amassing with weapons to go free the inmate from jail
7) whites began amassing with weapons once the blacks road through the white part of town armed to the teeth
8) whites gathered at the railroad tracks to keep the blacks from returning, when . . .
9) a sniper from the black part of town killed a white man on the opposite side of the treacks
THEN ALL HELL BROKE LOOSE
Posted on 9/30/14 at 2:29 pm to mikelbr
I have a BA in History and never heard about this until a couple of years ago. I took a senior level 20th century American History course and it was never mentioned.
Don't feel too bad.
Don't feel too bad.
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