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re: The Starbucks salute
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:43 am to USMCTiger03
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:43 am to USMCTiger03
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A salute is not required when carrying something in both hands, so Bush's salute is not required and simply an extra gesture. Obama could have easily held the cup with his left hand and returned the salute with his right.
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Keep digging.
This is so ridiculous. People (confronted with their own hypocrisy) now try to draw some sort of distinction between Obama's half-assed salute and Bush's half-assed salute. "Bush's wasn't near as terrible because...."
Had Obama done the dog salute and Bush the coffee cup, you'd say "at least bush had the decency to look him in the eye". If you're outraged over this, you cannot be swayed by facts. Your mind is made up.
They were both bad, but I think somehow the country will survive salute-gate.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:53 am to a want
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Had Obama done the dog salute
The picture would have won a Pulitzer Prize.
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and Bush the coffee cup
He would have been impeached.
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If you're outraged over this
I'm not outraged over it, but it is very predictable how the wagons are circled for even this minor f*ck up. Instead of saying, "That's terrible - he should follow Clinton's example, regroup, lock the salute down and move on." - ANYTHING perceived as criticism of this President is opposed to the ends of the Earth.
And part of this defensiveness is that Dems don't value military experience anymore. They denigrate guys like Bush and Quayle, who served in the guard, while holding up Gore (only soldier in Vietnam with his own bodyguard detail) and Kerry (self-explanatory). They make fun of Dole and McCain, disabled veterans, and applaud Clinton's cleverness in avoiding service altogether.
When a guy who has no real experience - at all - for the job, particularly on the defense/national security side shows up - one would think he would be sensitive to these issues of customs, courtesies, etc. Again, as the boss, he could dispense with the President saluting.
Almost anything would be better than what he did. This is a minor issue and, I'm sure you guys on the left are trying to give him credit for trying. I would, too, if this were 2009. For frick's sake - he's been president almost 6 years.
He just obviously doesn't care. This is a minor thing, but it illustrates that ambivalence in a very high profile way.
This post was edited on 9/26/14 at 8:54 am
Posted on 9/26/14 at 9:58 am to a want
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Keep digging
Digging? The standard is from a US Army website. It's common sense too, is it not? When carrying something with both arms it would be unreasonable and cumbersome to have to stop, put the thing down, stand up and salute, pick the thing up again and resume walking, even moreso if you have to do it multiple times. But if you're just carrying a cup in your hand, just change hands and salute.
But I know you Leftists have a hard time with common sense so I understand the frustration.
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