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re: Spinoff: SS vs welfare, do you know where your money goes?

Posted on 9/24/14 at 3:16 pm to
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/24/14 at 3:16 pm to
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stop the fighing...


No fighting here. I supply what info I have and read what others supply. I have never seen "Civil War Pensions: America's First "Social Security" Program" before interesting!

This pic is priceless. Other than the choice of hat the guy is me!

Posted by Mung
NorCal
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 9/25/14 at 10:11 am to
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SS is NOT welfare for the elderly!
Gubmint cheese is gubmint cheese honey. My taxes are being used to pay some codger to sit on his old arse. by the time i reach retirement age the system will be broke.

your perception is generally based on how close you are to getting the cheese.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 9/25/14 at 10:15 am to
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Gubmint cheese is gubmint cheese honey. My taxes are being used to pay some codger to sit on his old arse. by the time i reach retirement age the system will be broke.

your perception is generally based on how close you are to getting the cheese.


If you don't see the difference in collecting SS (that the individual paid into) and welfare (that the individual did not pay into) then you could sitting on top of the cheese and it wouldn't help you.
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/25/14 at 2:23 pm to
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Gubmint cheese is gubmint cheese honey.


I already paid for my cheese. Da gubmint folks you elected took my money and spunt it up sumwhere else. Dey a takin da money you is sendin in and spendin it sumwhere else too .... prolly on da folks dat ain't sendin none in. Ever onct in a while dose folks you voted into office takes a lil bit of money out of a pot filled wit money dey dun borrered frum sum udder place and puts it back in to da SS so dey can keep givin me a lil bita cheese to keep me happy. Youns don't have no idee where your muney went and youns don't have enny idee where da muney comes frum to give me a lil bit of mine bak to me.

I know dis is a lot of reedin fer you but git one of yer kin dat finished skool to reed it to you and den splain it to you. I purposefully wrote it in werds you can understan jus in case you don't know nobody dat finished skool.
Posted by Mung
NorCal
Member since Aug 2007
9054 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 4:42 pm to
sometimes it makes you feel better if you think that your gubmint cheese is better than somebody else's cheese. i understand. errybody wants to be better than someone.

at present, i've been paying into SS for 30+ years(did some construction wk at 15), and have at least another 20 before I can retire and be eligible for SS, assuming the age limit hasn't been raised. Every penny that I put into the system has been spent, either on current SS codger beneficiaries, or by the Gubmint on other stuff. Where are my SS payments going to come from? My kids and other poor fools.

BTW, unless you voted, those a-holes you voted for also spent up dat cheese.
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
18841 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 7:44 pm to
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sometimes it makes you feel better if you think that your gubmint cheese is better than somebody else's cheese. i understand. errybody wants to be better than someone.


Where did I say one cheese was better than another?

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Every penny that I put into the system has been spent, either on current SS codger beneficiaries, or by the Gubmint on other stuff.


I just told you where your money went. Not to codgers. Look it up before making ignorant statements. Me, yo mama, and other codgers ain't spending one single penny of yours. Politicians did.

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Where are my SS payments going to come from?


More borrowed money paid back to SS .. until they can't borrow more .... and then you are going to have much more problems than gubmint cheese.

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My kids and other poor fools.


The money they are going to pay in is already borrowed and spent. But they will believe they are wasting their money on cheese for you. Very few will learn what has really happened .... if USA still exists.

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BTW, unless you voted, those a-holes you voted for also spent up dat cheese.



I'm having trouble understanding that sentence but it looks like something I have already said. Who votes on the federal budget? Almost $17 TRILLION in debt, some of it to SS, and rising AND they are still voting to raise the debt limit. This won't end well.

The point being if you think you are paying for cheese for retired people you need to start looking into some Google.
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
18841 posts
Posted on 9/27/14 at 12:11 am to
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My kids


So you have kids! They go to school? They might be going to a school that this old codger paid for ... and is still paying taxes to maintain. But, somehow, you find it fair to claim that the FICA we are getting is coming from you and you don't like that.

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did some construction wk at 15)


You drove to work? or rode with some one? On roads that were already paid for by those that would be the old codgers that you begrudge the SS payments? We paid to have the roads built, improved, maintained, etc. We don't drive as many miles on them as we used to but we are still paying the same amount of taxes for the roads you use! But, somehow, you don't like it because you think you are paying our SS checks.

So just remember, if you are determined to believe the money you are sending in is going toward my SS check, I'm just spending it to keep up the schools and roads I bought for you.
This post was edited on 9/27/14 at 12:13 am
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