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Law Enforcement upset about Apple and Google encryption
Posted on 9/23/14 at 8:41 am
Posted on 9/23/14 at 8:41 am
I read this about apple last week, good to see Google is doing it too.... Btw, what kind of confrontation could they have? Are they going to try to pass legislation stating that Google and Apple can't use this type of encryption?
The quick and easy.... Apple and Google are starting to use encryption that makes it impossible for them to access data on a phone. So if the police/govt are trying to get info on someone, these companies will no longer be the middle man.
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The quick and easy.... Apple and Google are starting to use encryption that makes it impossible for them to access data on a phone. So if the police/govt are trying to get info on someone, these companies will no longer be the middle man.
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Moves by Apple Inc. AAPL +0.61% and Google Inc. GOOGL -0.47% to put some smartphone data out of the reach of police and the courts are raising alarms inside U.S. law-enforcement agencies, current and former officials say.
Several officials in Washington said they were bracing for a confrontation with Silicon Valley on the issue, the latest fallout from the revelations by former National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden about government surveillance.
Last week, Apple announced that its new operating system for phones would prevent law enforcement from retrieving data stored on a locked phone, such as photos, videos and contacts. A day later, Google reiterated that the next version of its Android mobile-operating system this fall would make it similarly difficult for police or Google to extract such data from suspects' phones.
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Posted on 9/23/14 at 8:55 am to Lsut81
Heres another story about it...
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Google has announced that its next mobile operating system, Android L, will encrypt users' data by default.
The measure will make it more difficult for private information to be hacked or handed to law enforcement agencies.
On Thursday, Apple said that devices running its new iOS8 software would be encrypted by default, with even the company itself unable to gain access.
Both firms have offered encryption for some time, but many users were unaware of its existence or had not enabled it.
Earlier this week, Apple's boss Tim Cook posted an online message assuring users the company's philosophy was that a "great customer experience shouldn't come at the expense of your privacy".
Swipe
As well as announcing default encryption for all devices running the new iOS8 software, Mr Cook took a thinly veiled swipe at Google, saying that Apple would not use its customers' information to sell things to them.
"We don't 'monetise' the information you store on your iPhone or in iCloud," he wrote, "and we don't read your email or your messages to get information to market to you."
He added that although Apple does have an advertising business, called iAd, the function can be disabled by users.
Shortly after, Google announced its stance on privacy, also embracing default encryption. A spokesman said: "For over three years, Android has offered encryption, and keys are not stored off of the device, so they cannot be shared with law enforcement.
"As part of our next Android release, encryption will be enabled by default out of the box, so you won't even have to think about turning it on."
Both Apple and Google follow in the footsteps of the now somewhat beleaguered Blackberry, which has encrypted data by default for some time.
The firms' focus on privacy comes after nude photos of celebrities were leaked online earlier this month.
The breach, which affected actress Jennifer Lawrence, among others, was linked by some security experts to vulnerabilities in Apple's iCloud storage service.
Law enforcement
The introduction of default encryption also protects US firms from having to hand over data to law enforcement agencies.
As the companies themselves do not have access to users' passwords, which unlock the encryption, they are not actually in possession of the data concerned.
Several of the largest US tech firms have been fighting government requests for their users' private data, including Microsoft, Google, Twitter, Facebook and Dropbox.
David Emm, a senior researcher at security firm Kaspersky Lab, told the BBC that automatic encryption was "probably more about privacy than about protection".
"Customers will find some reassurance in the fact that their data can't routinely fall into third-party hands," he said.
However he added that the measure only "applies to stuff on a [Apple or Android] device, but not necessarily to stuff you put in the cloud, which could still be accessible to law enforcement agencies".
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Posted on 9/23/14 at 9:01 am to Lsut81
Like it really matters. The government is tapping at the ISP level so any encryption is just a lost cause.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 9:20 am to inthemorning
Yes. IMO reporting this as a swipe at the NSA is a misrepresentation. All it will prevent is a situation where the local police have grabbed your phone incident to an arrest and want to subpoena Apple/Google for a decrypt. This won't really affect the NSA because everything you do on iOS or Android goes through the phone company or ISP except for iMessage/gChat. And for those, the Lavabit example demonstrated the government will simply issue an NSL compelling them to cc their intake on the messages.
(The whole "keys are not stored off the device" is a red herring because key exchange is done through an Apple/Google server, not directly. So it would be trivial for the NSA to direct them to intercept these messages pursuant to a compelling NSL.)
(The whole "keys are not stored off the device" is a red herring because key exchange is done through an Apple/Google server, not directly. So it would be trivial for the NSA to direct them to intercept these messages pursuant to a compelling NSL.)
This post was edited on 9/23/14 at 9:22 am
Posted on 9/23/14 at 9:48 am to Iosh
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All it will prevent is a situation where the local police have grabbed your phone incident to an arrest and want to subpoena Apple/Google for a decrypt. This won't really affect the NSA because everything you do on iOS or Android goes through the phone company or ISP except for iMessage/gChat. And for those, the Lavabit example demonstrated the government will simply issue an NSL compelling them to cc their intake on the messages.
True, but still good to know that the local dipshits won't have access to anything on your phone.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:18 am to Iosh
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All it will prevent is a situation where the local police have grabbed your phone incident to an arrest and want to subpoena Apple/Google for a decrypt.
If it's encrypted, the only person who can decrypt the information is the user. No one at Apple or Google can do it.
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