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Is Bill Snyder is one of the Top 10 CFB coaches of all time?
Posted on 9/19/14 at 8:31 am
Posted on 9/19/14 at 8:31 am
The asinine Bill Snyder is overrated thread on the SEC Rant got me thinking - is Snyder one of the 10 best coaches in the history of CFB?
He took over the worst program in CFB and turned them into a perennial contender in the Big 8/12, all while operating out of Manhattan, KS.
SI article on Snyder and KSU from 1989
KSU won their 299th game as a program on October 18th, 1986, and then went winless until Snyder's first win in his first season on September 30th, 1989. They were 0-26-1 in their last 27 before he took over, and in 10 seasons, he had the Kansas State Wildcats 11-0 and #1 in the country.
Truly unbelievable.
Snyder Wiki
He took over the worst program in CFB and turned them into a perennial contender in the Big 8/12, all while operating out of Manhattan, KS.
SI article on Snyder and KSU from 1989
KSU won their 299th game as a program on October 18th, 1986, and then went winless until Snyder's first win in his first season on September 30th, 1989. They were 0-26-1 in their last 27 before he took over, and in 10 seasons, he had the Kansas State Wildcats 11-0 and #1 in the country.
Truly unbelievable.
Snyder Wiki
This post was edited on 9/19/14 at 8:44 am
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Posted on 9/19/14 at 8:35 am to slackster
I don't know if I'd put him in the top 10, but probably top 20 for sure.
Posted on 9/19/14 at 8:37 am to slackster
I don't know, but all the tards who kept inserting that cartoon GIF of him in the game thread last night were annoying.
Posted on 9/19/14 at 8:39 am to slackster
He is easily top 3 under appreciated or unrecognized. He would be between 10-15 for sure.
Posted on 9/19/14 at 8:39 am to slackster
No.
Posted on 9/19/14 at 8:39 am to slackster
i really think you can make the arguement that no coach in say the last 50 years has done to a program what he has done.
not only were they the worst 1-a football program when he got there, they were the worst athletic department, and if you read this link, the University was failing as a whole
LINK
not only were they the worst 1-a football program when he got there, they were the worst athletic department, and if you read this link, the University was failing as a whole
LINK
Posted on 9/19/14 at 8:58 am to slackster
Here's a fun fact. Snyder once interviewed for the LSU job - I can't remember if it the Hallman or Dinardo hiring. He was strong candidate until he made it known that he wanted to change LSU's uniforms.
Posted on 9/19/14 at 9:34 am to slackster
He is clearly one of the best of all time
Posted on 9/19/14 at 9:40 am to slackster
top 10 may be a stretch
but if you're argument was top 10 coaches who dramatically changed the culture of a program he would be up there no doubt
but if you're argument was top 10 coaches who dramatically changed the culture of a program he would be up there no doubt
Posted on 9/19/14 at 9:48 am to slackster
Top 10 no, I couldn't put him above any of these. Maybe top 25.
Bear Bryant
Joe Paterno
Tom Osborne
Steve Spurrier
Bobby Bowden
Woody Hayes
Knute Rockne
Bud Wilkerson
Robert Neyland
Pop Warner
Bear Bryant
Joe Paterno
Tom Osborne
Steve Spurrier
Bobby Bowden
Woody Hayes
Knute Rockne
Bud Wilkerson
Robert Neyland
Pop Warner
Posted on 9/19/14 at 10:26 am to slackster
Only thing preventing him from being Top 10 is that he never won a national title. I remember one season they were undefeated going into the conference championship game, then lost. I really thought they were going to win it all that year.
Posted on 9/19/14 at 11:04 am to slackster
quote:
KSU won their 299th game as a program on October 18th, 1986, and then went winless until Snyder's first win in his first season on September 30th, 1989. They were 0-26-1 in their last 27 before he took over, and in 10 seasons, he had the Kansas State Wildcats 11-0 and #1 in the country.
Before this season Snyder had 187 wins in 22 seasons.
Starting back from 1988, the year before he took the job, you have to get back to mid 1926 to add up to 187 wins - that's 66 years. And 17 coaches.
A lot of their win total came EARLY in the history of football.
I see one back to back winning season by a coach before then. 1953-1954.
The program was pretty solid from the 1920s goin back. Charles Bachman had back-to-backs in '25&'26 and 3 in a row from 1921-1923.
Zora Clevenger had a winning season from 1916-1918. They also had 7 winning seasons in a row from 1906-1912.
Posted on 9/19/14 at 11:20 am to slackster
I don't know where he ranks all time, but he's one of the best ever IMO. I don't know if that's top 5, top 10, top 20, but he's a damn good coach.
Going into last nights game, if you take away ties, Kansas State without Snyder was 316-530 which is approx. 37% winning pct.
With Snyder they were 180-90 which is approx. 67% winning pct.
Pretty impressive to me.
Going into last nights game, if you take away ties, Kansas State without Snyder was 316-530 which is approx. 37% winning pct.
With Snyder they were 180-90 which is approx. 67% winning pct.
Pretty impressive to me.
Posted on 9/19/14 at 11:29 am to slackster
Top 20 for sure.
Posted on 9/19/14 at 12:12 pm to slackster
Posted on 9/19/14 at 1:24 pm to slackster
He HAS to be!
Posted on 9/19/14 at 1:28 pm to slackster
If the category was:
Which football coach does the best with teams made up of one and two star HS recruits? Bill Snyder would be No. 1 and nobody else would even be close.
LSU's 3rd string has more HS stars than Snyder's starting lineup. That's why you don't see KSU players in the NFL. He is really good at picking the leftovers that other folks have thrown away and making a really good meal.
Which football coach does the best with teams made up of one and two star HS recruits? Bill Snyder would be No. 1 and nobody else would even be close.
LSU's 3rd string has more HS stars than Snyder's starting lineup. That's why you don't see KSU players in the NFL. He is really good at picking the leftovers that other folks have thrown away and making a really good meal.
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