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re: Australian cops bust ISIS beheading plot
Posted on 9/18/14 at 8:50 am to Pettifogger
Posted on 9/18/14 at 8:50 am to Pettifogger
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Oh, yes, tell me more about Nazi atrocities committed in the name of Christianity.
I never said they did that, but lets play that game. For what reason was a particular group of people persecuted in WW2 in Germany? Are you saying there was no religious overtone or motivation here?
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In modernity, no faith has persisted in violence in the name of faith in the manner that Islam has.
Very true.
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Moreover, it seems like you're implying that Christian violence was prominent, and now Muslim violence is. At best, they were both prominent, and Islamic violence still is. It's not like violence in the name of Islam is a new development.
You make a lot of assumptions and you seem awfully defensive.
My point was clear, don't group everyone who practices a religion under one umbrella. Its ignorant and makes you look absolutely stupid.
I used Christianity as an example because most in this thread can relate to it. I also clearly defended Christianity. You need to calm down.
Posted on 9/18/14 at 9:03 am to TheCaterpillar
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I never said they did that, but lets play that game. For what reason was a particular group of people persecuted in WW2 in Germany? Are you saying there was no religious overtone or motivation here?
I'm sorry but you're waaaay off on your history here by trying to connect Nazis and Christianity. The Nazis viewed Christians with about as much contempt as does the OT today. As for "religious overtones" in their persecution of the Jews, Gypsies, and Slavic peoples, there was absolutely none. The Nazis saw one thing as their driving force, RACE. They wanted a "pure Aryan" race to rule over a Germanic empire in Europe. And in addition to wanting to do away with "untermensch" they likewise wanted to do away with Christianity in Europe as well and replace it with a form of neo-paganism.
ETA: But if you do want to do some research, you'll find there actually was a bit of religious ties to the Nazis....
Haj Amin al Husseini
There was even special Muslim formations in the Waffen SS...
This post was edited on 9/18/14 at 9:08 am
Posted on 9/18/14 at 10:47 am to TheCaterpillar
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My point was clear, don't group everyone who practices a religion under one umbrella. Its ignorant and makes you look absolutely stupid.
I used Christianity as an example because most in this thread can relate to it. I also clearly defended Christianity. You need to calm down.
I'm not exactly defensive, I just hate PC arguments furthered to equate all religions. Christianity has spawned a lot of death. Usually, now, Christianity is simply a label associated with atrocities, and they're not directly related. The same certainly can't be said for Islam, although I have no issue in acknowledging we're talking about a handful of Islamic subsets here.
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