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re: The pussification of America begins in elementary school

Posted on 9/15/14 at 2:21 pm to
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
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Posted on 9/15/14 at 2:21 pm to
It's all good.
Posted by htownjeep
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Posted on 9/15/14 at 2:22 pm to
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No shite, I watched a dude get beat up and he wouldn't fight back at school. Dude was just standing there getting hit and saying "calm yourself". He got suspended.

It's like natural instincts have been brainwashed out of our kids nowadays. It's just sad.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
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Posted on 9/15/14 at 2:25 pm to
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It's like natural instincts have been brainwashed out of our kids nowadays. It's just sad.


I agree. My son tells me that his teacher drills that kind of stuff into them all the time - talking about what they can/can't do, how they will get into trouble. I think that's part of it, he knows better than to get in trouble at school because of getting in trouble at home, too. Maybe that's why he is so adamant about not knocking the kid's block off.

Maybe it's time to have another real sit-down with him.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 9/15/14 at 2:25 pm to
Fighting back is one of the most basic instincts in the animal kingdom
Posted by Manzielathon
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Posted on 9/15/14 at 2:26 pm to
You have no idea how to raise a boy
Posted by Paige
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Posted on 9/15/14 at 2:27 pm to
Wait til he starts dare and comes home telling you that you're poisoning your body when you drink
Posted by TeddyPadillac
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Posted on 9/15/14 at 2:27 pm to
He's told the teacher/principal. THey aren't going to stop it. They can't. They don't follow the bully 24/7, and bullies don't like when they get fussed b/c you tattled on them. Your solution is to only use words. Sometimes fist need to do the talking. That's a part of growing up as a little boy. How many little boys didn't get in a fight at some point in elementary school?

If the kid doesn't want to fight yet, i'd say go talk to the dad of the bully. If he's a dad worth a shite, he'll fix the problem. If not, then the kid's going to have to get in a fight. Only way it will stop is if they fight, or the bully finds someone or something else to occupy his time.

I don't go telling my boss when someone i work with pisses me off. I confront them and work it out in person. If that doesn't work then you get your boss involved. No boss wants to deal with kid shite.

You can't teach a kid to rely on others to solve his problems all the time.
Posted by 777Tiger
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Posted on 9/15/14 at 2:27 pm to
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Maybe it's time to have another real sit-down with him.



why not take your son over to the bully's house and kick his old man's arse in front of your kid? lead by example
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
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Posted on 9/15/14 at 2:27 pm to
Yeah, am not looking forward to that one...
Posted by Paige
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Posted on 9/15/14 at 2:28 pm to
Well I have one who's 15 and doesn't get beat up and who has never been disciplined at school
Posted by 777Tiger
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Posted on 9/15/14 at 2:29 pm to
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Well I have one who's 15 and doesn't get beat up and who has never been disciplined at school




you Bossier skanks raise 'em right
Posted by Paige
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Posted on 9/15/14 at 2:35 pm to
I offered advice to him on how to handle his problem that worked for me

His son does not want to fight. What don't you people get about this?

And why should he make him? I'm not saying a kid should never defend themself, I'm saying this kid is fricking 5. A couple years ago he was a toddler

And my son wasn't bullied physically. It was verbally. I would not condone him beating up the kid over him saying mean things to him. That's never appropriate IMO. Why is fighting the answer for children but adults who fight are trashy? There will always be assholes and people who don't like you

And the bullying stopped once the school suspended the kid. So yes the school can take care of the issue

As far as work, yeah talk to the person first. I am quite sure my son told that little jerk to shut up. But sometimes that doesn't work and you have to go up the food chain
This post was edited on 9/15/14 at 2:38 pm
Posted by Paige
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Posted on 9/15/14 at 2:37 pm to
Way to resort to name calling

If I were there I'd kick your arse
Posted by 777Tiger
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Posted on 9/15/14 at 2:38 pm to
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If I were there I'd kick your arse


you can take the girl out of Bossier...
Posted by Paige
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 9/15/14 at 2:39 pm to
I've never been in a fight. You can't tell?
Posted by TXGunslinger10
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2011
17995 posts
Posted on 9/15/14 at 2:40 pm to
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You can't go around screaming "bully" when you're an adult.


Just the thought of an adult doing this makes me
Posted by htownjeep
Republic of Texas
Member since Jun 2005
7612 posts
Posted on 9/15/14 at 2:41 pm to
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Way to resort to name calling

If I were there I'd kick your arse

So you're saying if someone fricks with you in real life you defend yourself and handle it on your own?

Hmmmmmm
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 9/15/14 at 2:42 pm to
Posted by Paige
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Posted on 9/15/14 at 2:43 pm to
Did you not read my post prior to that one?

And that was a joke
Posted by htownjeep
Republic of Texas
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 9/15/14 at 2:51 pm to
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Did you not read my post prior to that one?

Yes, and I agree with you to a point.

I raised both of my sons in this "zero tolerance" age and they were both told that if someone picked on them and started anything with them then they had the green light to defend themselves. I also told them that they better be 100% right and that if they ever got into a fight where it wasn't necessary then they were going to be in trouble with me.

Over the years they asked me a few times about how my rule conflicted with the school rule. So I explained how my rule was more important than the school's rule in this case. They totally understood that I would support them 100% if they got suspended or expelled but they damn sure better have been defending themselves.
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