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re: Jennings has, by far, the best QB Rating in the SEC

Posted on 9/7/14 at 12:18 pm to
Posted by GetmorewithLes
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Posted on 9/7/14 at 12:18 pm to
Not to split hairs but the number you are quoting is the QB efficiency. QBR is a different statistic.

AJ has improved on Tot QBR to a 77.1 (I think 100 is max but not sure). He is behind Kenny Hill - 94.0, Blake Sims - 87.5, and Nick Marshall - 79.5 in the SEC in QBR.

Still a great improvement from last week when he was at 39.0 in QBR.


FWIW see below

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What Total QBR Captures


In particular for college football, we introduce this year the Total Quarterback Rating, also known as Total QBR or QBR. And, since college football has imbalanced schedules, QBR will be seen in both a form that adjusts for defenses faced – often called Opponent-Adjusted QBR or Adjusted QBR – and in a form that doesn't adjust for defense, often called Raw QBR or Unadjusted QBR.

The scale of QBR is from zero to 100, where 50 is average. Top quarterbacks are in the upper 80s and 90s for a season. Manziel, in fact, ranked first in QBR in 2012 with a value of 90.5. His unadjusted value was 86.4, also the best among FBS schools. The increase from unadjusted to adjusted reflects that he did face good defenses overall.

Unlike NCAA Passer Efficiency, which uses only box score statistics, Total QBR accounts for what a quarterback does on a play-by-play level, meaning it accounts for down, distance, field position, as well as the clock and score. A 5-yard gain on third-and-4 is a good play, whereas a 5-yard gain on third-and-14 isn't. A 20-yard touchdown pass when tied in the second quarter means more than a 20-yard touchdown pass when down 30 points late in the fourth quarter. QBR accounts for those things using analysis that turns traditional productivity into points on the scoreboard and wins in the standings.

It also accounts for a quarterback's ability to scramble, his ability to run on designed rush plays, how well he avoids sacks, drawing and committing penalties, and all-important fumbles, which can be significant for quarterbacks. If Texas A&M gained 5 yards on third-and-4, Manziel's contribution to that play is captured.

• If he threw it the full 5 yards and the receiver was immediately downed, Manziel gets a fair amount of credit for the throw, splitting it with pass blockers and the receiver.

• If he threw it a couple of yards behind the line of scrimmage to a running back, Manziel gets less credit because the receiver and any blockers in front of him did more of the work.

• If Manziel avoided a sack and scrambled for the 5 yards, he gets a lot of credit because his line gave up pressure and his receivers weren't open.

• If it was a designed rush for Manziel to get those 5 yards, he gets less credit than with a scramble because the offensive line often clears a couple of yards for a runner.

• If the defense was drawn offside, Manziel gets a modest amount of credit for that.

• If Manziel just turned to hand the ball off to a back for the 5 yards, QBR doesn't give Manziel any credit or even count it as an "action play" – our term for plays in which the QB gets some portion of the credit or debit.

These should make sense intuitively, and our analysis of the data supported these intuitions.




Posted by Dr. Shultz
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Jun 2013
6391 posts
Posted on 9/7/14 at 1:07 pm to
QBR is a made up stat ESPN has created.

Don't ever quote that shite again
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 9/7/14 at 1:16 pm to
The Total QBR is biased in favor of running QBs fwiw
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
5582 posts
Posted on 9/7/14 at 4:50 pm to
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Jennings has, by far, the best QB Rating in the SEC
Not to split hairs but the number you are quoting is the QB efficiency. QBR is a different statistic.
You are wrong.

The OP correctly labeled the stat as QB Rating.

That's what the stat is. It is also used to determine the efficiency of a college QB. Nevertheless, it is and always has been called the QB Rating, NOT QB efficiency.

The QBR is NOT the QB Rating. The QBR is a bullshite, proprietary stat made up by ESPN. Only ESPN can determine the numbers for a QB. Oh, and it's a bullshite stat.


P.S. Did I mention that QBR is a bullshite stat? Because it's a bullshite stat.


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