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re: EPL Transfer Window Winners & Losers

Posted on 9/2/14 at 10:56 pm to
Posted by Srbtiger06
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Posted on 9/2/14 at 10:56 pm to
Kind of a side note...

I love that the knock on City now is the attendance.

It isn't being a shite club.
It isn't our recent (relatively speaking) promotion.
It isn't being little brother.

It is attendance.

Blows my mind how far we've come.
Posted by Dijkstra
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 9/2/14 at 10:58 pm to
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College football is on line one. I'm sorry if you were denied that with West Virginia.


I don't think they're in the same stratosphere, and I've spent most of my life attending LSU games. I've seen a lot of big games in person (Florida 2007 as a student comes to mind), and I've never witnessed anything that equals same level of love and passion that supporters have for their club. To be fair, I've never got to attend a match in Europe yet so I MAY be let down, but there's just something different about it.

College football may be the CLOSEST example. I just don't think it's measures up. Most of us here haven't ever got to see our club play at their ground, and yet, here we all are arguing, debating, and #bantzing the shite out of each other. It's just bigger than wins and losses. It's about that history and the state of your club.
Posted by BleedPurpleGold
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Posted on 9/2/14 at 11:00 pm to
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I love that the knock on City now is the attendance.


Its because its a relatively recent development with the rapid expansion of the stadium to beat FFP.

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Kind of a side note...


On another side note, my God did we all derail this thread.

Posted by WarSlamEagle
Manchester United Fan
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 9/2/14 at 11:01 pm to
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It's just bigger than wins and losses. It's about that history and the state of your club.

And, again, I see that here on a daily basis with Alabama, Auburn and Georgia. But that's just me.
Posted by WarSlamEagle
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Posted on 9/2/14 at 11:02 pm to
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On another side note, my God did we all derail this thread.


And I came in late. You guys crushed this waaaaaaaay back.
Posted by Dijkstra
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 9/2/14 at 11:04 pm to
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On another side note, my God did we all derail this thread.


Every league-wide discussion about EPL is always going to descend into anarchy. If it didn't, there's something mighty wrong here.

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And, again, I see that here on a daily basis with Alabama, Auburn and Georgia. But that's just me.


I think SEC football as a whole is one of the only valid comparisons. I guess I just get stuck on the songs, tifos, and the accents. Maybe the accents just make the passion seem more genuine.

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And I came in late. You guys crushed this waaaaaaaay back.

I left not long ago when the thread was at 3 pages. I came back an hour and a half later to a 9 page thread. The idea of Manchester United fans may possibly want Welbeck over Balotelli was just a little too much to handle for some people, I guess.
This post was edited on 9/2/14 at 11:53 pm
Posted by jackwoods4
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Posted on 9/2/14 at 11:36 pm to
This had 20 posts when I looked last time and I come back to 185 and we're COMPLETELY off topic. I wouldn't have it any other way.


Posted by BleedPurpleGold
New Orleans
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Posted on 9/2/14 at 11:42 pm to
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 9/2/14 at 11:52 pm to
Why was the reported price on Welbeck so cheap? Was the English premium already factored in, or was there desperation on both ends? It's amazing to me that an England international of his age would ever go for less than 20. Add to the fact that he adds to the homegrown quota, and I'm as pleased all things considered. I honestly don't care if he scores goals, all I want him to do is to run the channels to create angles and opportunities for our midfielders. The only area Welbeck might be superior to Balo is his running. But it seems like any time a striker joins this team they suddenly want the ball to feet all the time. Tired of that shite.
This post was edited on 9/2/14 at 11:53 pm
Posted by Dijkstra
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 9/2/14 at 11:54 pm to
That's what a few of us were raving about earlier when discussing Welbeck. He's not a player who's going to come in and dictate what he'll do. He'll do whatever you need him to do and work his arse off at it.
Posted by TheZaba
FL
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 9/3/14 at 6:19 am to
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I want to sublease a flat in Liverpool City Centre for a couple of months and go to as many home and away matches as possible...
Where do I sign up?
Posted by timlan2057
In the Shadow of Tiger Stadium
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 9/3/14 at 6:21 am to
Wish we could have done more. Carvalho at DM would have been wonderful, because the kid is going to be a monster one day soon.

But Arsenal "losers" this window?

No way.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 9/3/14 at 6:25 am to
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I don't think they're in the same stratosphere


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To be fair, I've never got to attend a match in Europe yet so I MAY be let down, but there's just something different about it.


So you've never been to a match but you're sure it's not even in the same stratosphere? If you've been going to LSU/SEC games all your life and are expecting to be blown away by a European soccer match you're going to be highly disappointed.
Posted by Dijkstra
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Posted on 9/3/14 at 6:39 am to
I've been to matches in the States, and they've been some of my favorite sports experiences. I don't expect to be "blown away", but it's one of the things I want to do most in life. To be fair, I enjoy and get more excited about soccer than I do football for the most part these days.

Seeing these freak of natures who are known throughout the world do their thing in its rightful setting is something that I think is a level above watching a bunch of college kids play football. I love college football. Don't get me wrong. I just think that the passion rivals, if not trumps, that of the college game, and the athletes are the best of the best in the world. I think that puts it in a different stratosphere. I may end up wrong, but until proven otherwise, I'm going to stick with it.

Matches like the Eternal Derby are just on another level of insane to me. To each their own, though.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30840 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 6:55 am to
Well if you are talking about 3rd world barbarian crap hole matches yea those get pretty crazy. However, stabbings, fires, riots etc... are not really something I want to be a part of my sporting experiences.

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Seeing these freak of natures who are known throughout the world do their thing in its rightful setting is something that I think is a level above watching a bunch of college kids play football.


Obviously the professional vs. amateur aspect makes it a bit different but...

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I just think that the passion rivals, if not trumps, that of the college game


...this is generally not the case if you are comparing a run of the mill Saturday match (even between good sides) compared to a highly anticipated SEC showdown.
Posted by BleedPurpleGold
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 9/3/14 at 11:42 am to
Respectfully disagree. A lot.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30840 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 1:09 pm to
This is not a condescending post at all but just curious, what matches have you been to in Europe that make you think the passion and atmosphere is not even in the same stratosphere as a big SEC matchup? What was it about those matches that gave you that this impression?
This post was edited on 9/3/14 at 1:10 pm
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 9/3/14 at 6:04 pm to
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This is not a condescending post at all but just curious, what matches have you been to in Europe that make you think the passion and atmosphere is not even in the same stratosphere as a big SEC matchup? What was it about those matches that gave you that this impression?


I wasn't the one saying it isn't in the same stratosphere but I've been to some big SEC games and the atmosphere of every AS Roma match is much more electric. A lot more so when it's an important one.

Though I think big SEC matches are pretty cool atmospheres as well, the main difference is comparing the 15-20k in the Curva (end zones) to the student, or otherwise loudest, sections at SEC games. The constant singing /chanting/ flag and banner and flare shows are really pretty spectacular. It's all about taste ultimately but the soccer crowd is much, much more of an interactive, participatory dynamic.

I would also add that all but the biggest SEC games tend to be a bit of a letdown whereas the curve are packed and crazy for every single match from well before kickoff pretty much until they make them leave no matter how small the opponent.

I can't speak much for England; I've only been to West Ham v Roma there. I can say that many of my friends speak to vast differences in stadium atmosphere between many of the bigger clubs with some being fantastic and others are much more sedate like NFL games. West Ham was certainly a great, if harrowing, atmosphere.


I don't think it has much to do with the level of passion or downright obsession fans have. I find there's just as much constant talk about, say, Alabama/Auburn all around the state and just as many people following religiously enough to tell you when they last installed new shower heads in the dressing room as there in Rome for AS Roma.

I will say though that I was in Rome when AS Roma last won the Scudetto and also in Tuscaloosa when Alabama won the 1992 title and there was absolutely no comparison between the reactions. Rome was practically shut down for two weeks with impromptu parades, parties, tifo displays in the streets.




This post was edited on 9/3/14 at 6:28 pm
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125408 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 6:21 pm to
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Respectfully disagree. A lot.



once you experience it in person nothing can top it.

The Col I work for and his wife went to the cult of A&M and said even that didn't compare to FCK matches.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125408 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 6:24 pm to
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Though I think big SEC matches are pretty cool atmospheres as well, the main difference is comparing the 15-20k the Curva (end zones) to the student, or otherwise loudest, sections at SEC games. The constant singing /chanting/ flag and banner and flare shows are really pretty spectacular. It's all about taste ultimately but the soccer crowd is much, much more of an interactive, participatory dynamic.



Thats what I said earlier. The heart of the club doesn't leave early while the student sections are out by the mid 3rd most the time.

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I will say though that I was in Rome when AS Roma last one the Scudetto and also in Tuscaloosa when Alabama won the 1992 title and there was absolutely no comparison in the reactions. Rome was practically shut down for two weeks with impromptu parades, parties, tifo displays in the streets.




Or just how about the WC or Euros in Europe
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